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Commento di 6101

Big shadow resist armor recipes, shoulder buffs seem to focus more on reliability, rather than luck (straight AP and +spell damage versus the Scryers' +crit and +spell crit).

The tailoring recipes are +damage / +sta, whereas the Scryers' are +healing / +sta. The leatherworking enchant is +defense, but Aldor's is +mp5.

All-in-all, I'd say that Scyers Rep is best suited for a healer wheras Aldor Rep would be better for basically everyone else. It should be noted that guilds will probably want both.

Commento di ra2phoenix

The Aldor have a very nice caster staff available, while the only caster item for Scryers is a ring, of which there are many available in TBC. Note that as with any opposed rep, for every 1 point of reputation you gain with Aldor, you will lose about 3 with Scryers. There is a quest for some free reputation from Khadgar in the center of the city, to get to Friendly and get the quests from them. A lot of the quests are repeatable turnins from killing Burning Legion mobs, while there are several more involved quests in the inn in Netherstorm.

Commento di 1633

Note that when you choose the Scryers or the Aldor, you should avoid entering the opposing faction's tower. You will be hit a few times and then teleported out of the city.

Commento di apparentbliss

For a concise side-by-side comparison of the differences between the rewards of Aldor vs. Scryer reputation, http://www.wowwiki.com/Aldor_vs._Scryer is a good resource.

Commento di StatiK

Do you have to do quests for the faction before you can see rewards?

Commento di Arador

You initially choose the Aldor by completing this quest: Allegiance to the Aldor

Commento di 16451

The fact that you cannot enter the other factions area is a huge bonus to members of the Aldor because they can walk into Nagrand through the back door. This is very helpful before flying mounts allow you to just go over the wall.

Commento di 11162

Here is a list of items which you can hand in and up until which level:

Dreadfang Venom Sac per 8 until Neutral (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10019)

Mark of Kil'jaeden per 10 until Honored (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10326)

Mark of Sargeras per 10 until Exalted (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10654)

Fel Armament per 1 until Exalted (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10421) You will also receive dust for which you can buy items.

Commento di 24727

I just got Exalted a few days ago, purchased my Vindicator's Brand. <3

My only advice in farming/buying the Marks and Fel Armaments;

Look at the price of both. Marks are typically 1G per mark on my server. 10 Marks = 250 Rep. Fel Armaments were going from 10G to 25G per FA. 1 Fel Armament = 350 Rep.

Marks are more economical for purchase unless you are lucky enough to see the Fel Armaments 10G-12.5G range.

I farmed the Marks of Sargeras and Fel Armaments at the Ruins South/South East of Area 52 in Netherstorm.

I was seeing 10 Marks of Sargeras and 1 Fel Armament every 30 mins on average. If you are a skinner, you get to do that too. I spent extra gold gained from sale of drops in that Area on purchasing Marks and Armaments to quicken my way to Exalted.

Commento di sewers

Just like to add:

Rep needed to get from Honored to Revered: 12000

Rep needed to get from Revered to Exalted: 21000

10 Marks = 250
1 Fel Armament = 350

So if your going to grind it out from honored that would be around 699 marks and 45 Fel Armament

Commento di 24927

Has anyone read anything into the fact that Aldor Rise is higher than Scryer's Tier ?

It seems like the Aldor are putting themselves above the Scryer both in morals and in location. Just a thought :]

I went with Aldor thought, just hit honored, getting there.

Commento di 33103

I am just barely unfriendly with Aldor, and now want to regain rep. Sha'nir isn't offering me her quest. Any ideas how to start regaining??

Commento di 35277

Im a shaman with lw was this a good choice to go?

Commento di Daggy

I have done the Q " Allegiance to the Aldor" and are now friendly with them, but Scryers have much better revards for a dagger rogue, so i wanna change and get friendly with Scryers. is it possible? or is it me and Aldor for ever? :P

Commento di 30392

Quick question, can I go straight to handing in Marks of Sargeras from the beginning, or do I have to use Kil'jaeden marks until I hit honored?

Commento di 38982

You can turn in Fel Arm / Mark of Sarg / Mark of Kil'Jaedan at neutral and friendly, but only fel arm and mark of sarg at honored to exalted

Commento di 41391

Don't forget about the rep you get through questing. You can get a total of 7050 rep through quests alone! Below is a breakdown.

The format of this list is the name of the first quest in the chain, followed by the link to the quest line on Wowhead, followed by the total rep you get from the entire chain. Hope this helps!

Netherstorm
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Sunfury Briefings - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10328 - 675 rep
Attack on Manaforge Coruu - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10246 - 250 rep
Naaru Technology - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10243 - 1150 rep
Socrethar's Shadow - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10407 - 1500 rep
Distraction at Manaforge B'naar - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10241 - 500 rep

NETHERSTORM REP - 4075 rep

Shadowmoon Valley
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Karabor Training Grounds - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10587 - 575 rep
The Ashtongue Tribe - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10619 - 500 rep
Tablets of Baa'ri - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10568 - 825 rep
Return to the Aldor https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10650 - 1075 rep

SHADOWMOON REP - 2975 rep

Commento di 51453

I was browsing the nice armor offered by Kelara for what Wowhead calls epic armor tokens. How does one get these tokens?

Commento di 64937

Ey got a quick q here for ppl... anyone know if im EX with scryers.. then want to be it with aldor.. can i still use the LW patterns from scryer ( since i learn them).. hope someone tryed so i know if its possible or not

Commento di 64937

DOH diden read the : Switching to Aldor
To change your faction from the Scryers to the Aldor to access their crafting recipes (and undo all reputation progress you have made), find Sha'nir, an Aldor in Lower City. She offers a repeatable quest for 8x . Once you are neutral with the Aldor, you may no longer receive this quest. so i guess i can use LW patterns from scryer when im aldor ;P

Commento di 60672

Does losing rep unlearn any recipies you use that have a rep requirement?

Commento di 27639

right now im level 68
and i have no rep with either aldors or scryers

i was wondering if i can start the aldors quests w/ still a reputation of neutral?

and if not wat do i do to become friendly?

Commento di Bufe

I am now exhalted with Aldor.
If i switch to Schryer...will i then loose my Aldor LW recipees?..which i have learned?

Bufe

Commento di natural

Doing a aldor quest will decrease your scryer rep

Commento di xiron

Quick tip...If you're Blood Elf and you go aldor, you'll start at 0/3000 neutral. Go do the Dampscale Basilisk Eye turn-in for the Scryers and you'll drop into unfriendly with the Aldors (-275). Now go do the Dreadfang Venom Sac turn-in twice. You come out with 21500 xp and 225 rep into neutral with Aldor. Not bad for a quick trip to the AH.

I'm assuming you can do the opposite if you're Draenei with the Scryers.

Commento di nevervate

Last week i managed to complete the faction switch quest turnin's to go from Scryer Exalted to Aldor. I'm currently revered Aldor and working on finishing things up.

Just to confirm, any Shoulders that are already enchanted can still be worn if you swap factions, recipes that you have already learned are maintained, and any unused enchants are useless.

Switching sides allows you to get some items that are unique to the factions ( quest rewards ), as well as giving you quests to do a second time around ( for a decent amount of gold ). That being said, it is not at all worth the time investment to farm all the dreadfang venom sacs that it took me ( I ended up farming ~60% and AH'ing ~40% )

Commento di Maim

Sidenote: The name Aldor seems inspired by the god Aldur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldur) from the fantasy works of David Edding.

Commento di 63832

hi im curently way of making the big desicision on aldor or scryers but i thought i might get all the heavy thinkin out the so what i wana know is aldor or scryers for a dreanei hunter (talent spec= marksman)

Commento di 67010

If you are a Draenei you become auto friendly when you talk to any member of the aldor. You also become hostile by scryers.

Commento di Abrasives

Who can tell me what i can do to change factions from Scryers to Aldor?? its possible?

Commento di 97710

Hi,

Can any Holy Priest or and other class tell me if I should go Aldor or Scryer as a Holy/Disc. Priest. I just can't decide. Pls. thank u:)

Commento di 112587

the most successful drop rate for the Marks of Sargeras is the narrow tunnel leading from Deaths Door through to Vekhaar Stand (Blades Edge Mountains 66,70)
It's lined with lvl67 Deathforge Technicians, drop rate for me was around 40%

Commento di Gnomey

imo, they should make aldor vs. scryer events a pvp thing in an instance, or a scryer hovel that u can butcher w/ 4 other people

Commento di 89415

Came across this while reading LOTR:
"Aldor, son of Brego: The third King of Rohan"

Commento di 103954

A little tip for Blood elves who want to gain rep with this faction.
Do not complete Khadgar's quest, Alegiance to the Aldor, get first Neutral with pre-quest or when you switch faction you'll find hard way that you are Neutral and not Friendly.

Commento di Daifuku

I am having a hard time deciding which side to pick... I am a gnome rogue at the moment..
Does anyone have any input?

Commento di 135540

what would be the best thing to chose as a warrior?

Commento di 10275

There is no Aldor Reagent vendor. Not that this would be a deciding factor in which side you choose, but reagent heavy classes might want to work on their Lower City rep as well to get the discounts.

Commento di 117045

After the patch 2.4 (when the Shattered Sun Offensive faction was added) there's a little easier to get Aldor Reputation doing Shattered Sun quests. You can get Marks of Sargeras as a reward from daily quest Blood for Blood in Hellfire Peninsula and taking Aldor Supplies Package as a reward four times (when you reach Friendly, Honored, Revered and Exalted with Shattered Sun Offensive).

There's also an opportunity to collect Marks of Sargeras and Fel Armaments when you are killing demons in for daily The Battle Must Go On.

Unfortunately, the benefits for players who have chosen Aldor aren't as good as for Scryers side (killing mobs for quests on Isle of Quel'Danas and in Netherstorm will give you a lot of Sunfury Signets).

Commento di 20383

Which would be best for a Dps Feral or Resto Druid??
I'm currently leveling a druid and she'll probably switch between the two.

Aldor is more Healing/Damage
where Scyer is more Mana per 5/Crit
(Also Scyer has an alchemy recipe, that doesn't benefit me but I guess could be sold for g)

I'm a nub at druids, so which would be more beneficial? Plz <3

Commento di 159774

Shadowmoon Valley is a very good place for Aldor Reputation farming if you need it. Click for map; Legion Hold is circled, this is a great place to kill demons for Marks of the Sargeras and the occasional Fel Armament. A decently geared level seventy should be able to kill several demons without the need to take a break.

Commento di 80501

Despite being loyal followers to the light, and having some great warriors, the Aldor lacked one thing.

An architect.

Commento di crazyterran

Another good thing to note is Aldor is a good reputation to grind with the Lower City faction, as Fel Armaments / Marks of Sargeras drop well in The Shadow Labryinth, while Scryers have an easier time grinding with the Sha'tar rep, as the Arcane Tomes and Sunfury Signets drop well in the TK instances.

Commento di Allakhazam

This summary info is well hidden - i've spent a year researching rep and today is my first hit on this view of rep items and quests! But thanks!

In the meantime, i built a printable reference sheet showing all Aldor rep quests, the quest givers and their locations, quest sequences and qualifying criteria. Find it at: http://www.&*!@#$%^&*.com/wow/reputation.html

Commento di Allakhazam

i got this by mistake is this ok for a hunter. i do mining and skinning so i dont care about the patterns.

Commento di Allakhazam

how do we change our rep? i went scryer but i want aldor

Commento di Allakhazam

Are there any kind of mob, that gives reputation for me, when I kill?

I'm unfriendly with both side... and I can't redeem my T5 tockens...

Please somebody hel me!

Commento di Thottbot

When you choose a side, you lose faction with the opposite side everytime you complete a quest with your original choice. SO once you get all your Aldor faction up, if you go back and start to get rep with the Scryes your rep with Aldor WILL decrease. I wouldn't think you can go below hated/at war with a faction so if you maxed out your Aldor and started doing quests for the other side, worst case you'll be hated by the Aldor. Haven't played BC long enough to know implications of that. Maybe someone who has tested it longer can tell you?

Commento di Thottbot

Antimodes - Alleria

I went Aldor due to the fact that I picked up JC as my processing profession and the trainer was on the aldor rise.

Which side you pick matters, as one side is geared more towards PvP (scryer) and the other PvE (aldor).

Once becoming past revered with a faction would make it REAL rough to go back to the other faction, as each quest/rep turn-in not only gives you rep for your side, but gives you more negative rep for the other faction then you get postive rep for the faction you just turned whatever items/quests in for.

Damage gear, wpns, etc are more on the Scryer side. I think they have more tailoring patterns as well. I know they need Arcane Tomes and Sunfury/Firewing Signets.

Healing gear, tanking gear, and your jc trainers (and more plans) are on the Aldor side. The Aldor uses Fel Armaments and Marks of Sargeras/Kil'Jaden.

Both the Signets/Marks are turned in on your respective factions Rise/Tier in Shat city and reward you rep for your faction and negative rep for the opposing faction.

Turning in a quest/rep item which is similar to your level should roll you over to the next rep level (i.e. friendly, honored, revered, etc.)

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Q1: Why can't I turn in certain Signets/Marks even though they are for my side?

A1: Until level 68, I couldn't turn in the Marks of Sargeras ANYWHERE on the Aldor side (as the marks are for them, see above). As soon as I dinged 68, the same guy who takes the Marks of Kil'Jaden started accepting the Marks of Sargeras in the same fashion (one at a time for a small amout of rep, 10 at a time for a larger portion of rep per turnin). I'm 99% sure the upper level Signets for Scryer work the same way. Also, once I reached level 70, I no longer have the option to turn in Marks of Kil'Jaden (the equivalent of the lower level Signets, unsure which of the 2 is lower). At that point they became AH fodder. I would turn in ANY of the lower rank marks you have saved BEFORE dinging 70.

Q2: What the hell is Holy Dust (given after the turnin of a Fel Armament for Aldor, unsure of what the name is for the Scryer equivalent of turning in an Arcane Tome, but it works the same) for?

A2: Go to the npc NEXT to the quartermaster for your faction in your factions bank in Shat. That person will sell you shoulder enchants, which cost 2 Holy dust for the first level at honored, and 8 for a much better enchant at revered, also shoulder.

*More to come as learned, hope it helps*

Commento di Thottbot

Aldor seems to be the way to go for AP happy class's, such as Wars/Rogs/ret paladins/feral druids/hunters. Aldor has better Physical dmg enchants, while Scyer has better caster enchants. I wouldn't care about the weapons/gear, as they'll be replaced sooner or later, the Enchants are the only thing thats forever. If you're one of the above class's, Aldor is the way to go. Scyer is for better caster enchants.

Even then, Aldor has a Sword thats better then Scyer dagger for a Fury war or DW Hunter. Keep in mind the Consortium+Keeper of time daggers are both better, in both dps+max hit, so Scyer dagger is utterly worthless. So a Dagger rogue can reap better enchants of Aldor, while still getting the best rep Daggers, since neither are on Scyer.

Commento di Thottbot

In point of fact, your class, talent spec, and professions will all have a bearing on your choice.

Don't let anyone tell you which to choose, unless they are an expert on all aspects of your character (and your heart!). Review the rep rewards, and especially the recipes, before deciding for yourself.

In the end, you may re-spec your talents or change professions, so all your anguish over which faction to choose may have been for naught.

For helpful summaries of all the faction rewards, quests, and vendors, see: http://www.!@#$%^&*!@.com/wow/reputation.html

Commento di Thottbot

Ccurrier said that Marks of Kil'Jaden and lower lv marks of Scryers can't be used to gain reputation at lv 70, well the thing is you can. You just can't turn in past honored so don't worry hitting lv 70 just because you want rep with them. Another point is it dosn't matter wich one you choose, there's no *PvP* or *PvE* side, it all depends on what's your class and profesion.

- I would suggest a healing class with tailoring to go Aldor because of the Thread they can make on legs wich will give you healing and stamina. A caster (damage dealer) with tailoring should go to Scryers for the other Thread on pants, damage and healing done + stamina as well. The only bonus if you are tailoring and don't really care about the Thread would be the fire resistance gears you can craft by going to Aldor. It's the only profesion without the arcane resistance gears equivalent on Scryers, so Aldor would be a good choice if you don't know anyone who can make the fire resistance gears.

- If you are a blacksmith or a Letherworker, it's your call, you just have to choose between arcane resist and fire resist gears. for now they are both used equaly so it's a 50/50 choice.

- If you are a Jewel Crafter, I think you might learn all you can with the grand master first before choosing your path because I think he's on one side only, you don't have to choose a reputation side right away anyway so take you time learning all you can from him. Note that you dont have to choose a faction right away, you can wait till lv 70 and it won't change anything. But there's patterns on both sides so I'd recomend you to go and see the vendor inside the bank on each side before choosing.

- If you are an Alchemist, go Scryers, but it's only an Elexir of Fire Power. It will only get the damage done by fire spells up by 65 for 1 hour. Nothing else for you but it's still good for mages/warlocks.

Now, if you don't have a profesion and you are wondering which path you should take, you can always choose depending on the profesion you will want to take as it could be helpful. If you don't really care about your profesion, just go with what items you'd want best even tho they aren't easy to get and that you will surely have to change them with something better later on.

Note that the only thing that may change is the Inscriptions wich work like enchants so basically you can't put an enchant + an inscription item. You get these in exchange of the items you get for turning in the Arcane Tomes and Fel Armaments. Theres slight differences between both faction but work the same way. Also there's a FP for each faction depending on wich one you choose. They are both in Shadowmoon Valley. Scryers' one is South East at the Sanctum of the Stars and the Aldor one is North East at Altar of Sha'tar. so if you want to travel faster, I'd recommend Aldor for Alliance and Scryers for Horde, but it's really the last reason you'd want to choose them for. You only need friendly with the faction to be able to use the flight path.

The only way to change reputation is by doing a repeatable quest in Lower City, but it's long, really long. I'd recommend doing it only if you want to change reputation side and have a LOT of time to spare or when you first choosed your side and find out you want to go with the other one wich will take some time anyway. I'm not sure what is the minimum lv required to be able to turn in the lower marks/signets but even if it's lv 62 like said before, I don't know why you'd want to farm reputation right away. And if you can't before lv 62 but wants to get reputation, just grind till lv 62 by farming the signets/marks and you'll be just as happy. don't remember that you can't turn them in past honored so you'd want to farm the lower ones till honored before turning in all your greater marks/signets or Fel Armaments/Arcane Tomes because they are harder to get. I think that covers it all.

Commento di Thottbot

NPC to which you deliver dampscale basilisk eyes is called Sha'nir and she is in Lower City 61,15.

Commento di Thottbot

We all remember the days of CC rep, but now this rep is easy. I got about 2k rep an hour farming (from fel armaments and marks of sarg). Best place is legion hold, fast spawns, 1/2 the mobs have about 4k health.

Commento di Thottbot

firewing and sunfury signets are turned in to the scryers to increase rep with them , firewing and sunfury drop off the blood elves . for aldor rep you need to turn in the marks of kil'jaedan and marks of sargeras , these drop off the demons in netherstorm , SMV and blades edge mountains. past honored , you want to start turning in arcane tomes for scryer rep and fel armaments for aldor rep. hope this helps.

am exalted with aldor , real nice FR pl8 items and and a kick ass sword and tanking chest piece - not sure what scryers offer but for warriors i suggest you go with aldor.
enjoy!

Commento di Thottbot

For healers, scryer has more Mp5 and aldor has more +heal.

Commento di Gail17

Is the Aldor and Scryer factions account bound? In other words, I am exalted with the Scryers on this char so if I get to exalted on another char will the status count towards this char's exalted total?
Cheers

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The Aldor

An ancient order of draenei priests once run by Velen, the Aldor are currently led by High Priestess Ishanah. They are servants of the naaru in Shattrath City known as the Sha'tar. Rivals of the Scryers.

Rank	Nome	Min	Quantità
1	Odiato	0	36000
2	Ostile	36000	3000
3	Avverso	39000	3000
4	Neutrale	42000	3000
5	Amichevole	45000	6000
6	Onorato	51000	12000
7	Riverito	63000	21000
8	Osannato	84000

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