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Commento di SaxxonPike

This set is ideal for rogues all around. Despite the lack of agility on the gear, you will find that the attack power and critical strike rating makes up for this shortcoming. You'll only be missing out on Dodge rate, although you probably won't care much if you PvP: over half the classes in the game deal magic and/or ranged damage that isn't affected by it anyway.

It's great to see that the set itself grants 1490 hit points and the equivalent of 410 attack power. It will also bring up your critical strike by approximately 7.5% from the rating and agility bonus. It's also got the equivalent of +5.4% to hit.

Definitely a set to look out for.

Commento di 8271

Very nice gear ive seen them b4 i dueled one with full set on my 60 pally and i got owned. but that was b4 the patch that made pallys own ^^

Commento di 11682

Not counting the amount of resilience your enemy players will have, reducing our chance to crit to a M i n i m u m.

Skin is nice tho...compared to T5:)

Commento di Reanna

Your agility/crit calculations are incorrect.. at level 60, a rogue needs 25 agility for 1% crit. At level 70, a rogue needs 40 agility for 1% crit.

Commento di h0pe

Rather annoying that none of the set bonuses on the new tiers have any Envenom buffs.

Commento di 21452

Refering to H0pe's last comment:

As a mather of fact T5 does have a envenom bonus...

Link: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/itemset=622

Commento di h0pe

Zhift, waiting untill our end set for a bonus on our most deadly attack is quite bad. This is what i'm pointing out that we should have gotten a Envenom buff on our other sets, seeing as it out damages Evis' within a PVE enviroment.

Commento di Urahara

For those of you who are fashion-conscious, here are the "matching" bracers, belt, and boots to this set, as best as I can discern.

Bracers of Maliciousness https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28514 (Maiden of Virtue)
Girdle of Treachery https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28750 (Chess Event)
Rapscallion Boots https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28669 (Shade of Aran)

Commento di xer0trigger

Does the 4pc set bonus stack with Ruthlessness?

Commento di 59139

this is good but looks weird its good until you get better epics, which may not happen until SSC and by then we'd have tier 5 along

Commento di Hiddenkiller

It's also worth noting that the 2-piece bonus scales with Imp SnD.

Commento di Anakaris

Chest = Magtheridon
Head = Prince Malchezaar
Hands = Curator
Legs = Gruul the Dragonkiller
Shoulders = High King Maulgar

Commento di 111146

It sucks how this set has a lower item level by 3 than the s1 glad set and s1 is super easy to get compared to this set. Although i would not want to pvp with this set or pve with s1
im just saying this set needs more budget for stats

Commento di 120165

Is it just me, or do the Gladiator's PvP gloves seem better than Netherblade gloves?

Commento di 73830

gotta disagree.. a 5point evis is gonna be a 900-1.1k without a crit or at max a 2.3k with a crit, envenom is gonna be a huge hitter even with a small amount of posion on the target

Commento di FinnrSlayer

Tier 4 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Karazhan - Prince Malchezaar
Gloves Piece - Karazhan - The Curator
Shoulders Piece - Gruul's Lair - High King Maulgar
Leggings Piece - Gruul's Lair - Gruul The Dragonkiller
Chest Piece - Magtheridon's Lair - Magtheridon

______ of The Fallen Champion - Shaman - Rogue - Paladin
______ of The Fallen Defender - Druid - Warrior - Priest
______ of The Fallen Hero - Warlock - Hunter - Mage

Curator/Prince Malchezaar drops 1 of above
High King Maulgar/Gruul/Magtheridon drops 3 of above, totally random

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at aldor/scryers tier in shattrath city

Commento di Thottbot

Knowing blizz... i'd say no they wont stack. 3 cheers for bugs/bullsh*t!

Meh i'm just being pesimistic but i seriously doubt they stack. Testing would be required but how to be sure?

Commento di Thottbot

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=1058899

droped for me lastnight got the gloves in karazhan from the Curator

Commento di Thottbot

I think these boots go with it. With the look anyways :P

http://www.thotbott.com/?i=59995

Commento di Thottbot

Token Drops for t4:

1. Gloves	Curator (5. Boss in Kara)
2. Head	Prince Malchezaar (2nd Last Boss in Kara)
3. Shoulder	Maulgar (1. Boss Gruuls Lair)
4. Leggings	Gruul
5. Chest	Magtheridon

Commento di Thottbot

So I guess the so-called tokens used to 'purchase' this set are other gear dropped by raid bosses. When hovering mouse over the cost of netherguard set, it would list another totally different piece of gear.

Commento di Thottbot

nah i think it looks spiffy... kinda like a super hero..ROFL

Commento di Thottbot

taking a quick look at stat totals of netherlade and assasination sets:

Assassination / Netherblade / upgrade
Agility: 118 / 108 (-10)
Stamina: 128 / 164 (+36)
AP(w/o agi): 256 / 320 (+64)
To Crit: 25 / 21 (-4)
To Hit: 39 / 53 (+14)
Armor: 1187 / 1354 (+167)

total upgrade: +36 stam, +54 ap, +14 hit, +167 armor.

Sockets: same number, some different colors, socket bonuses are a little better in netherblade: 4agi+4agi+4stam vs 4dodge+4dodge+4stam.

In theory, I'd say that anyone who doesn't have the time for raiding(or doesnt want to raid) can just slap some basic enchants on some pieces of their gear and have an 'epic' set by simply doing basic non-heroic dungeons. Looking at the set bonuses, Assasination's 25 energy envenoms and eviscerates seem a lot better.

I've heard that Blizz maybe buffing all raid sets soon though.

EDIT: Comparison not valid after most epic items and all raid sets were buffed.

Commento di Thottbot

based on the above this "epic" gear is not much better than the assasination set, i think that blizz #$%^ed up big.....

Commento di Thottbot

As a combat sword rogue, the 2 set bonus on this is great for me, an extra 3 seconds on SnD makes it a load easier to get a full 5 combo point eviscerate/envenom between refreshing SnD

Unlike the 2 set on Assasination which most bosses are immune to cheapshot and kidney shot

Yes the 4 set isn't as good as Assasinations, but for me taking the pair of bonuses on each set together, (for PvE) I'd take this one thanks.

Commento di Thottbot

This is just one example of many of how Blizz does not put the appropriate stats on items. Just take the Primal Intent set for example: all attack power, agi and stam. No increased hit and no increased crit stats at all. This is set is supposed to be end-game and for PvE. Not even any sockets on it to throw on the +hit/crit gems...nothing.

It's all outta whack I tell ya.

Commento di Thottbot

Just wondering if the 4 item bonus is actually a different percentage then the one gained through Ruthlessness.

What I mean by that is that does the percentage to gain a combo point after a finishing move become 75% if you have Ruthlessness 3/3 or do you now have 60% of gaining a combo point and another 15% to gain another combo point ?

Commento di Thottbot

It looks very ugly

Commento di Thottbot

Does anyone know how they calculate the total Slice and Dice duration if you have 2/5 of this set and 3/3 Improved Slice and Dice? Does the extra three seconds get added in before the Imp S&D; or after?

Ex.
Before:
1cp: (9+3)*1.45 = 17.4
2cp: (12+3)*1.45 = 21.75
3cp: (15+3)*1.45 = 26.1
4cp: (18+3)*1.45 = 30.45
5cp: (21+3)*1.45 = 34.8

After:
1cp: 9*1.45+3 = 16.05
2cp: 12*1.45+3 = 20.4
3cp: 15*1.45+3 = 24.75
4cp: 18*1.45+3 = 29.1
5cp: 21*1.45+3 = 33.45

The difference isn't huge (1.35 seconds more in each case) but I was just curious.

Commento di Thottbot

Assassination / Netherblade / upgrade
Agility: 118 / 126 (+8)
Stamina: 128 / 190 (+52)
AP(w/o agi): 256 / 360 (+104)
To Crit: 25 / 75 (+50)
To Hit: 39 / 81 (+42)
Armor: 1187 / 1540 (+353)

Total upgrade: +52 stamina, +112 AP, +50 crit, +42 hit, +353 armor.

Socket bonuses remain the same: 4agi+4agi+4stam (on Netherblade) gives slight advantage over 4dodge+4dodge+4stam.

The epic itemisation changes made a big impact. The dungeon set is now significantly behind.

Commento di Thottbot

Skulkers Greaves from Netherspite actually have more hit

Commento di Thottbot

uhmmm so...yea..if your NOT using slice and dice you shouldnt be raiding. this is my favorite 2 set bonus atm. im upset about t5...most of the stuff doesnt have hit rating which makes me very sad. im working my way to the hit cap(364 rating) and love having great bonuses along with getting +hit

Commento di Thottbot

The Gem slots for this set are..

1 x Meta
1 x Blue
1 x Yellow
4 x Red

I was wondering what people thought would be the best gems to get for maximum dps?

Thanks.

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Netherblade

Netherblade è lo Set delle Incursioni Tier 4. Lui contiene 5 pezzi. Ha bonus di 2 e 4 pezzi.

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	Netherblade Chestpiece (1)
	Netherblade Facemask (1)
	Netherblade Gloves (1)
	Netherblade Shoulderpads (1)

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