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Commento di 10676

This appears to be the "universal" leather Dungeon 3 set. Every type of armor has a "universal" set designed to be at least somewhat useful for all classes that can wear that type of armor; alas, this set doesn't appear to have much of a bonus for Balance or Resto druids, so only Feral druids and Rogues will be fighting over these pieces. Fortunately, the abundance of sockets will allow you to fill out your personal requirements nicely...

Commento di 10128

Rogues really do get 2 sets instead of one. This is clearly better for a Rogue than a Feral Druid, the stats speak for themselves.

Rogues get a lot less attack power from Strengh as we Druids do, meaning raw AP is a lot more important for them. A well-equipped 70 feral druid will roughly have 2500ap, whereas a rogue will have a hard time hitting 2000ap.

The usual attractive stats for a Feral are high strenght, high armor or high stamina. This set has none, and only carries high Agility and AP.

Of course a Feral druid would benefit from this set greatly, but leave it to the Rogue if he wants it.

Commento di 16211

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=27837

for the still messing Leggings.

Commento di 19203

Personally, I think that the set as a whole is not something that I'd use for tanking. The helm and the gloves would be a good selection, mixed in with any number of other pieces with much more armor, etc. It's simply a matter of a lack of defense and armor. Defense might be addressed by the sockets, but the armor, even with +armor enchants, won't cut it. If anything, though, get the 2-set bonus.

Commento di 15985

Honestly, it's just a dps set designed to work for both rogues and druids. Since rogues dps just about 100% of the time, the general consensus is that it should go to rogues first. However, if a druid wants it, there's nothing stopping them from taking it. The rogue might whine and cry but it's just loot. It's not that big of a deal imo, it will drop again.

As was pointed out earlier, there are better alternatives for tanking and the excessive amount of +hit rating. (69) and attack power make it seem to be more oriented toward rogue dps, but that comes out as 4.37 hit. Which is still reasonable for a feral druid (without any other hit gear) because of the default 5% miss rate. (I'd assume feral druids would like strength better than raw AP because of Heart of the Wild)

The set is slightly more rogue dps oriented but I wouldn't complain and whine if it went into the hands of a feral druid.

Commento di 6780

Feral druids will benefit from this. Don't knock agility. The dodge and crit bonus is nice for bear form. The red sockets would mostly benefit from +STR gems. Yellow would benefit more from +crit unless you are woefully behind on +hit. Blue sockets I would recommend stamina

Commento di 22941

rogues.... assasination set ===that=way===>

aint to shabby for a drood tankin or full feral fighters, unless u rogue want droods to start taking assasination from ya....

Commento di 20753

Does anyone know the proc rate on that 4 piece bonus? :)

That may be the breaker for taking this over Assassination for roguish little me. ;)

Commento di 19321

i started collecting my assassination set and while the bonuses are nice stat wise for a mutilate rogue this crushes the assassination set anyone who think that this is a druid only piece has never played a mutilate rogue right or at all. As for the comment of rogues whining then druids should start taking the assassination pieces well they already do. And if your in a guild that will take a kitty druid as melee dps over a rogue and give them the same priority on dps gear good game cuz either you have some shitty rogues or your not looking to progress. Put this on me a mutilate rogue and on a kitty druid and i'll show you how they cant even break within 10% of my dmg

Commento di 27661

What I am still having a hard time figuring out is why these pieces are in the heroic places mainly when the gear you need to complete those intstances has to be better than what you're going after. Its not fair that every other set piece of other sets drops in normal instances and the general pieces for this gear set and the spell dmg general one are in the heroics only. Id like to be using this for my DPS set as a feral druid and this makes it impossible and frustrating. As to the who rogue and feral druid fight; Im DPSing with the best rogues and i tank with the best tanks. I dont pretend that i can out DPS you but a lot of the time I do. If you have a problem with that I dont have any sympathy for your crying. I play to have fun and get better to do more. Thats it. This gear is unattainable for me with be having some of the best lvl 70 gear out side of getting the tier 4 from Karazhan. If anyones got tips on how to do the heroic intances let me know, cause i want this gear and im pissed cause its not fair.

Commento di 30385

this set is excellent for a combat rogue, tho seams like most (rogues) would focus on helm and chest for the hit bonus, while getting assassination gloves, shoulder and leggings.

Commento di 27225

Having read the first 12 or so posts, it strikes me as interesting that people are calculating the following (which is correct without talents I should say):

Bear
Str 1 pt = 2 AP
Agi does not give AP

Cat
Str 1 pt = 2 AP
Agi 1 pt = 1 AP

*However*, if you have the normal talent build, Str gives 2.4 AP per point, not 2. Very, very few bears or cats are not going to take that talent.

Commento di 21328

I've seen through most lvl 70 sets, and as far as I can remember, all of them have 1 meta sockets and 6 other random sockets. This has 1 meta and 11(!!!) sockets, only in 5 pieces! If you are a feral druid and see a lacking of other stats like strength and intellect, this feature may be useful to personalize your druid, adding whichever stat you find more useful. This should be implemented on epic sets too, imo.

Commento di 35309

There's no real reason for a rogue to acquire more than the shoulders and chest for the 2pc set bonus of 35 hit rating (absolutely godly). There are much better items that are easier to obtain for a rogue's other item slots.

Put https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24061 in your red/yellow sockets,
and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24055 in your blue sockets, and you'll be a pro.

Commento di 41652

Couple things many folks don't consider when deciding Str vs. AP:

- Talents
- HOTW and SOTF both improve Str, but not AP (except as granted by stats)
- Nurturing Instinct works on Str, not AP

- Buffs
- BoK improves all stats, but not AP (except as granted by stats)

Bears w/ full SOTF get 2.03 AP per Str.
Cats w/ full HOTW and SOTF get 2.43 AP per Str.

That's not to say this stuff wouldn't be /great/ to DPS in or to tank in (mmm, agi and stam), but consider your gear choices carefully before you go play your druid... If you play a cat that never shapeshifts in combat, you may need to go roll a rogue. If you play a bear that never shapeshifts in combat, you may need to go roll a warrior.

Hope this helps!

Commento di SaxxonPike

I'd rather have the Assassination set. That set is more geared towards rogues. This set does not have rogue-specific bonuses. Also, feral druids need some lovin'. So I'd give them this.

Commento di Gymnos

I wrote down two ideal comparisons of the Wastewalker and Assassination sets for myself, and decided to share it. Keep in mind; this is Rogue-based.

Assassination set:
1 meta - (24 attack power) Swift Skyfire Diamond
2 red - 2(12 attack power) Bright Blood Garnet
3 yellow - 3(3 critical strike rating & 6 attack power) Wicked Flame Spessarite
1 blue - (4 AGI & 6 STA) Shifting Nightseye
118 AGI
256 attack power
25 critical strike
39 Hit rating (2.47% more chance to hit)

Total stamina:
134
Total attack power:
444
Total critical %:
5.31%.

Wastewalker set:
1 meta - (24 attack power) Swift Skyfire Diamond
4 red - 4(12 attack power) Bright Blood Garnet
4 yellow - 4(3 critical strike rating & 6 attack power) Wicked Flame Spessarite
3 blue - 3(4 AGI & 6 STA) Shifting Nightseye
116 AGI
190 attack power
22 critical strike
88 Hit rating (including set bonus, 5.57% more chance to hit)

Total stamina:
157
Total attack power:
414
Total critical %:
7.94%

It depends what you want, I suppose. I'm going to go for this set over the Assassination set due to the extra ~3% critical, 230 extra health, and ~3% extra hit chance. A loss of 30 attack power doesn't out weight the other things for me.

Commento di 55924

Also dont over look that you only need 4 pieces to get the pretty handy set bonuses.

therefore you can swap one piece for another, which may be useful depending on your spec.

On my SS combat rogue, i will probarbly be taking this set without the helmet and replacing it for something better for
atk power and agility, as long as it has a meta slot ofc,that is if there is such an item :D

Commento di amaterasu

why would someone want to compare one set with another in its entirety. the point of a set composing of 5 pieces is that you can choose between different sets and optimize the overall effect, instead of simple-mindedly choosing one set and ignoring another.

sigh...

Commento di Royi

one thing i dislike, I think this is by far the hardest set to get, Rogues at least can get Ass Armor, but for feral druids, you might as well get into a kara guild and get loot from there. It will save you ALOT of time and hardship, reasons why this set sucks (in getting it, at least on my server):

4/5 pieces are from heroic dungeons
Mana Tombs is insanely hard on heroic.
No one ever wants to run Escape from Durnholde on heroic, and from what i've heard, its also insanely hard.

I know i'm a noob in many aspects, but after wasting 2 months attempting to get full Shadowcraft on my rogue a year or so back, I know the needing feeling people get. It takes over your soul and you become a warcraft drone. If you run a heroic and it drops, great! grats! But the game is meant to be fun, I never have fun running an instance 15 times in hopes that 1 item will drop :( In the BC there are many things from Rep rewards and newly crafted items that are on par with a lot of new gear.

Otherwise,

Oh, Heavy Clefthoof for Druid tanks imo. Armor, Def, + Stam are the most important things for a druid tank. (one could argue agil/dodge as well)

Commento di Rainfall

Summary for the set for easier planning ^^

Wastewalker Tunic
Drops from: The Blood Furnace (Heroic), Keli'dan the Breaker

Wastewalker Gloves
Drop from: The Shattered Halls (Normal & Heroic), Warchief Kargath Bladefist

Wastewalker Helm
Drops from: Old Hillsbrad Foothills (Heroic), Epoch Hunter

Wastewalker Leggings
Drop from: Mana-Tombs (Heroic), Nexus-Prince Shaffar

Wastewalker Shoulderpads
Drop from: Auchenai Crypts (Heroic), Avatar of the Martyred

Commento di 69531

The lack of strength on this makes it a lot less desirable for feral druids. Looks like I'm going to have to look elsewhere for a viable feral set.

/sigh

Commento di 11253

Wastewalker Tunic - Keli'dan the Breaker (Heroic Blood Furnace)
Wastewalker Gloves - Warchief Kargath Bloodfist (The Shattered Halls)
Wastewalker Helm - Epoch Hunter (Heroic Old Hillsbrad Foothills)
Wastewalker Leggings - Nexus Prince Shaffar (Heroic Mana-Tombs)
Wastewalker Shoulderpads - Avatar of the Martyred (Heroic Auchenai Crypts)

Commento di 57456

Which is better this set, or the assasination set

Commento di 6736

As a rogue, you really are best off getting mostly Wastewalker for raiding stats.

Wastewalker Shoulderpads
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27797
This item has hit on the shoulders while Assassination does not. Socket with hit and you have a very impressive 32 hit rating.

Wastewalker Tunic
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28264
Three yellow socket for hit rating and socket bonus. Otherwise the agility and ap on both chests is virtually identical but Wastewalker has more stamina.

Handgrips of Assassination
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27509
More hit then available through sockets on Wastewalker and significantly more AP then ungemmed Wastewalker. Even AP gemmed Wastewalker would only have 5 more ap and no hit compared to assassiantion.

Wastewalker Leggings
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27837
While the Leggings of Assassination slightly more raw stats then Wastewalker Leggings, Wastewalker has 3 gem slots. Breaking the socket bonus with 3 hit gems would net you a very impressive amount of hit. Extremely impressive leggings.

Wastewalker Helm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28224
It has hit and the Helm of Assassination does not. Dump a hit gem in there and you have an impressive 26 hit rating for a mere 10ap difference between the two.

Wearing 4pc Wastewalker will also net you an amazing 35 hit rating and the occasional extra AP when simply attacking. It is true that Assassination does have Rogue specific bonuses, Wastewalker bonuses are simply better geared for a raiding rogue. Once mobs become immune to stuns the 2pc Assassination bonus is worthless and raiding rogues simply do not use eviscerate and envenom enough to justify wearing it over Wastewalker's attack power bonus.

Gemming entirely for hit rating and using the 22ap/speed increase meta you'll gain an extremely impressive 125 hit rating. Furthermore, since combat spec rogues need 363 hit rating, you're virtually halfway to your hit goal with only 5 pieces used. You also have 12 free slots to use and you'd need about 20 hit rating per slot to reach the hit cap. But, since all of the Wastewalker listed above drops in heroics, you'll be gaining badges to help get to that hit rating. Good luck rogues!

Commento di 155265

For those looking for the missing pieces that match this set, just for looks, here they are, as far as I can discern. No set bonus.

Boots of the Shifting Sands - Laj (Heroic Botanica)

Dunewind Sash - Ghaz'an (Heroic Underbog)

Forestheart Bracers - Kargath Bladefist (Heroic Shattered Halls)

Commento di Thottbot

That means either rogues or druids can wear it. Depends on how you're specced and how you play. Arguing over who this is for is pointless. If you're in a party with a feral druid or rogue, guess you'd better hope you can roll higher than he does.

As for pure stats, the most benefit for this would seem to go to either bear tanks or evasion rogues.

From WowWiki;

Drop from: Keli'dan the Breaker, (Blood Furnace, Hellfire Citadel) in Heroic-Mode
Drop from: Kargath Bladefist, (Shattered Halls, Hellfire Citadel)
Drop from: Epoch Hunter, (Escape from Durnholde Keep, Caverns of Time) in Heroic-Mode
Drop from: Aeonus, (Black Morass, Caverns of Time)
Drop from: Warlord Kalithresh, (The Steamvault, Coilfang Reservoir)

Commento di Thottbot

There are three "3.5 Teir Dungeon" sets that are Leather.

One is inexplicably for Rogues, the Assassination Set. Another is inexplicably for Druids, the Moonglade set. This is the third set, which can equally benefit both depending on what the Druid's build is and what stat a Rogue would want more.

There are three sets of each armor type that go the same for Hunters/Shamans and Warriors/Paladins. And while I'm not sure, there's probably a handful of cloth sets that Mages, Priests and Warlocks can bicker over until the world ends.

If everyone would take a moment from their lootwhoring and realize that this set isn't a "ZOMG ROGUES/DROODS ONLEEEEEE" set maybe they'd finally grow up a little and become more pleasant and agreeable players in the game, hence would be more likely to last longer in guilds, PUGs and on other people's friendlists.

Admit it. No one likes a loot*!@#$.

Commento di Thottbot

Stat comparison

Armor: both sets have 1187, no difference here
Stamina: Wastewalker 139, Moonglade 94.
Agility: Wastewalker 116, Moonglade 49.
Strength: Wastewalker 0, Moonglade 106.
Attack Power: Wastewalker 190, Moonglade 0.
Hit Rating: Wastewakler 88 (includes set bonus, Moonglade 0.
Critical strike rating: Wastewalker 22, Moonglade 17.

Obviously the ONLY feral stat Moonglade has over Wastewalker is strength.

Those that say the Wastewalker is useless to druids because it has no strength don't know druids. Feral druids can either tank in Bear, or dps in Cat. Agility is HUGE for cat form. It gives us chance to crit, chance to dodge, armor, and more importantly 1 attack power for every agility.

Here are some useful numbers for druids assuming you have 5/5 in Heart of the Wild and 3/3 in Survival of the Fittest.

Bear Form:
1 str = 1.957 ap
1 sta = 12.3 health

Cat Form:
1 str = 2.337 ap
1 sta = 10 health
1 agl = 1 ap

Both Cat and Bear Form:
1 agl = 0.068% to dodge, 0.04% to crit
1 dodge rating = 0.0529% to dodge
1 crit rating = 0.045% to crit

Notice that 1 agl adds more to dodge% than 1 dodge rating and just barely less to crit%. For this reason and the fact that cats also get AP from agility I often choose gear with high agility over those that only have Dodge Rating or Crit Rating.

Melee comparison of Wastewalker to Moonglade:
It is obvious that Wastewalker has more agl thus more crit, dodge, and from equip bonus more chance to hit. It has more stamina as far as bear form is concerned. The only question is damage, i.e. Attack Power (AP)

Moonglade Bear Form:
106 str = 207 AP

Moonglade Cat Form:
106 str + 49 agl = 247 AP + 49 AP = total 296 AP

Wastewalker Bear Form:
190 AP (raw attack power from equip bonuses)

Wastewalker Cat Form:
190 AP + 116 agl = 190 + 116 = total 306 AP

Conclusion:
As far as melee stats go, the Wastewalker falls short of the Moonglade only in bear form, and only by 17 Attack Power. Considering all the other melee stats that the Wastewalker is much higher in, such as Hit Rating, chance to crit, chance to dodge, and overall health, the Waistewalker is hands down much better for feral druids.

Commento di Thottbot

Rogues go for assassination:

Why?

1)Set bonuses completely own your ass.
2)
Agility

Assassination :118
Wastewalker :116

Stamina

Assassination :128
Wastewalker :139

Attack Power

Assassination :256
Wastewalker :190

Hit rating

Assassination :39 = 2.4684%
Wastewalker :104 = 6.5823%

Crit rating

Assassination :47 = 2.1267%
Wastewalker :22 = 0.9955%

Armor

Assassination :1187
Wastewalker :1187

Total Attack Power

Assassination :374
Wastewalker :306

Total Critical Strike Chance

Assuming at level 70 25 agility = 1% crit.
Assassination :6.8467%
Wastewalker :5.6365%

What do we conclude? More attack power and crit strike on assass, plus the two set bonuses. Now I don't know what the procrate on the wastewalker is, but I'd raver have 68fixed AP than a proc of 156. For my part, if I intend going to karazhan, I'd be still tempted to keep the assassination, losing some hit but gaining on AP and crit, especially if I intend to use a mutilation/combat daggers spec. As for solo farming, assassination totally rocks: cheap shot + SnD + assassination bonus = ~+46% attack speed, meaning some total whipping. Not talking about the poison application chance going through the roof.
I think I'd still go for assassination pre Karazhan stuff: the -10energy means free 5pts evisceration; and there are numerous times where I just needed 5-10energy to eviscerate.

^ my 2 cents :D

Commento di Thottbot

This is rogue and feral druid set. I would take this set over assassins any day. As assassins set is virtually useless in a raid/instance setting since all raid bosses are immune to stuns. This set is what a good rogue wants if they are raiding.
Also it has more sockets allowing it to be better tweaked than the Assassins set
12 sockets on wastewalker Vs Assasonation's 7

Assassins set is pretty much only for PvP

Commento di Thottbot

This set falls outside of the 2 level 70 "class" sets and is awesome for PvE feral druids. PvP ferals really should stick with moonglade for the int bonuses. Good PvP druids shift forms so fast mana really is an issue, and moonglade set bonuses help cover that as well. Wastewalker however is superb for PvE feral, where no switching is required and the only stats you need are pure melee dps. Assassination is great for fist, mace and sword specced rogue PvP as the bonuses are great for stunlocking and hammering out the eviscerates, however dagger rogues dont really get anything useful out of it. At 70 I want to spec shadowstep and really wreak some havok with daggers. This set will ensure my ambushes never miss and let me see massive numbers fly. Wastewalker is far superior to assassination for this style of play. This is both a feral and a rogue set so stop !@#$%ing. If you are really that concerned its easy to make sure there are no druids/rogues in the group you go with.

Commento di Thottbot

i believe this set is also for anyone.it benifits both druids and rogue with no specific class bonus.I am a combat rogue who pvp's all the time so i walways look for stamina.and this wastewalker set has alot more (to hit).

Commento di Thottbot

To all those who say: Druids have moonglade!

MOONGLADE IS CRAP!

Why does blizzard always try to "mix" healing gear with feral?

When you want to heal you put healing gear on.
When you want to go feral you put feral gear on.
It's that simple.
Moonglade set basicly makes you crap at both.

Wastwalker is an exellent tanking set though I would never use it as dps. There are much better things out there for cat. This set is pretty decent for rogues too. Stop whining about wich class that should have it. If its better than your old then roll!

Commento di Thottbot

Ok, here's the deal guys, there are 3 Plate sets, 3 Mail sets, 3 Leather sets, and 4 Cloth sets.

Each type have the class specific ones AND a non-class specific set. It's intended for each class to roll on their specific set AND the non-specific set, if needed, simple as that.

In the case of Leather, it's:

Druid: Moonglade + Wastewalker (Feral)
Rogue: Assassination + Wastewalker

Just as in the case of Mail, it's:

Shaman: Tidefury + Desolation (Enhancement)
Hunter: Beast Lord + Desolation

Plate:

Paladin: Righteous + Doomplate (DPS)
Warrior: Bold + Doomplate

Cloth:

Warlock: Oblivion + Mana-Etched
Mage: Incanter + Mana-Etched
Priest: Hallowed + Mana-Etched

There we go.

My Hunter has 4 Beast Lord + 1 Desolation (the glove), and it works fine, and works as intended. If an enhancement Shaman rolled against me for it, I'm not going to freak over it, just as I don't expect him freaking if I rolled on the Desolation, simple as that.

Commento di Thottbot

Greetings, and welcome to Ravnodaus explains it all!

Todays topic, Instancing, and how normal Five man dungeons compare to Heroic versions and Raids.

In normal dungeons, many enemies are stunnable, crowd controlable, and low level enough to hit consistantly. Many fights are reletively short, and burst damage is a viable, and often sought after traight. Most groups are thrown together in a crazy mix and match, whoever we can get sort of way. This often leads to imbalanced groups, bringing hybrid classes versatility into play.

Heroic dungeons and raid dungeons on the other hand, are by their nature more demanding to those who brave their dangers. Many foes found in them are more resilient to many tactics, and fights last longer, these are not enemies easily beaten, and a different manner is often employed to down them. Everyone in these groups often has a specified role to play, and stick to that role, relying on their fellows to do the same.

Now that we have the basics down, we can take a closer look at the type of equipment these "raiders" are going to need to be as effective as they can be. Hybrid classes are going to choose a specific aspect to focus on, to maximize their effectiveness in these demanding dungeons. And specialized classes are going to focus on making their ability to continue the fight lasts more than a few seconds.

Lets look at the melee aspect in this example. Both hybrid and specialized classes will desire a large bonus to their ability to deal damage, and what better way to that then help ensure their attacks even hit the target? They are going to rely on abilities to continue the fight over longer periods, not chancing a victory on a lucky strike or two.

There is even a set of armor available to them to do this! Commonly called the Wastewalker Set! Ah, what a mysterious and wondorous world we play in, indeed.

Commento di Thottbot

People keep saying that wastewalker is better in Raids than Assassination for rogues because many things cant be stunned, get this - if i kidney shot and they are immune, i get the attack speed bonus and keep all my combo points. Both sets are good for raiding, saying that assassination isnt is completely incorrect.

Commento di Thottbot

no idea where somebody get it form that, druids are worse tankers then warros, or dps then rogues. this is totally bull$%^&. It is however that druids cant stunlock, or interrupt casting, and thats the reason why u take rogues on board, not for the dps alone. And same for warriors, they can disarm block shieldwall shieldslam etc etc, moves that are required to tank certain mobs that a druid cant. but thats okey,Druids arnt ment to do all insane, or els we where more powerfull then superman.

so every person who dont let a feral druid roll also on a melee dps leather item is just a crack head, and if ur entire guild backs this up well.... GL with farming UBRS or something.

and ps: the first rogue whos saying i cant roll melee leather gear, after i saved the day with fast backup healing/combat res or go from cat to bear to offtank a lose mobs will be shot. respec our roll, its ALOT bigger then ur tiny lil crack heads with greedy hands can inmagen.

Aidith, steamweedelcartel, allaince

Commento di Thottbot

For a Rogue doing solo PvE, the Assassination set is a great choice. The haste bonus on CC and and KS is superb.

For a Raiding Rogue doing heroics and Karazhan and above, the Wastewalker set is probably a better choice. Why? The hit rating bonus is amazing, and +hit is everything in the harder encounters.

There's no point having loads of crit chance and attack power if you don't hit the boss to start with.

The fact that some rogues keep two pieces of Wastewalker when they could have a full T4 set should speak volumes.

A good compromise, if you'll really miss the haste bonus from the assassination set might well be to have 2 pieces from each set.

If feral druids roll on these then that's fair enough in my book. The best way to avoid such confrontations as a rogue, is to run instances with a warrior tank or agree who rolls on what before you start.

Commento di Thottbot

This Set is Great for my Druid. Almost 40% dodge, and 37% crit in conjunction to the other gear i have. Dont degrade the set ya'all. i can prolly crit you so hard and so many times you couldn't blink before you're dead.

DEUCES

Commento di Thottbot

This set to me looks better than assassination. I recently collected all 5 pieces of assassination gear and then when I was in SH wastewalker dropped, I needed just because was only leather there. after the run I looked on thottbot and bam the set is nice, however the set bonus is lacking what assassination gives. But for ap I like this set and more gem slots in the gear pls help a rogue in need...

Commento di Thottbot

id like to this comment,
wastewalker is for druids and rgoues, some rogues would like assass better being a lvl 70 feral druid i wouldnt know
moonglade sux for feral druids so i got interested in this, id liek to let every1 know i never would roll on any piece of the assass,
for one i like set bonuses im a big fan, second its rogues anyway
now im not saying wasitewalker is for druids only,
but rogues technacaly have two good ones
like the hunter, they have 3 tier dungeoun set and 3b while shamans (enhanc) only have the 3b
id liek to also add any hunters who even think about rolling for thiss deserves to die, i h8 it when a hunter needs a good +agi leather when a druid(doesnt matter if feral) or rogue is in the group, and chances r for most hunter one or the other will be in the group,
but plz good rogues, you know how tough it is for feral druiids to find armor that a rogue wont say "its mine" and need for it , we druids r good ppl, (or atleast me) and i always ask the rest of the group , even if there isnt a rogue if i can need on an item,
for this reason i try many times to replace the rgoue place with a hunter(one that knows how to play) but sometimes u have to bring a good rogue and settle things with them, personaly i think wastewalker has a slight advantage to druids with the nice sta, but thats just me,
-be nice to rogues
-its hunters u need to keep an eye on

Commento di Thottbot

Hunters shouldnt roll on assassination or wastewalker. period

Commento di Thottbot

i think this set is more reasonable for druids than the assassination armor...

Commento di Thottbot

Okie, i need some advise from rogue experts.
Is this better than tier 4 for rogue?
And how often the additional 160ap buff proc?

Commento di Thottbot

Okie, i need some advise from rogue experts.
Is this better than tier 4 for rogue?
And how often the additional 160ap buff proc?

Commento di Thottbot

Is there anybody out there who can estimate the proc rate of the 4 piece bonus or knows the numbers?

I have the gloves legs and shoulders. I'd like to figure out if it'd be worth trying to get the chest, and replace gloves of dexterous manipulation with wastewalker for kitty dps.

Commento di Thottbot

This set is vastly superior, for rogues, to the rogues assassination set, not only because its 54 MAEP (pve agility equivalence points), but because its far better for hit rating, and the set bonuses are better. What kind of pve rogue uses kidney shot and cheap shot in pve anyways....they should be using garrote and rupture to maximize dps. Now, i know there are occasions when a rogue uses CS and KS in pve, but thats highly situational. This set is very nice for hit, which isnt nearly as important to druids as it is to combat rogues...and combat happens to be the best pve spec. Blizz just hates feral, srry.

This set with fel leather gloves, socketed for hit, is the best pre raid gear a rogue could possibly get, short of epics.

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Ups, double post

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As a rogue I would say this is a better set than the assassination set. The wastewalker set has more hit rating and only a little less crit rating... the only difference that might put people off is the attack power wich you lose a fair bit on. however the proc is more than enough to compensate even with a medium proc rating. As for anything else, such as the picky people who don't want to put it to chance. The number of sockets is uncomparable, the wastewalker set has enough sockets to make it a hell of a decent set which i would personally go to kara with anyday.

There is also a dispute over who is more eligable for the set, rogues or druids. If the feral druid wants it he has equal right to, the set addons(+hit rating) is great for druids and the sockets can be used to give the STR needed to make it a great tanking set for them. The rogues however have a good claim since it is a great leather set and the base attributes lean a little more to the rogues than the druids.. but only a LITTLE!

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And also a thing that is worth mentioning (although I like assasssination more than this - im speced that way, so dont blame me) is that wastewalker drops in heroic mode of certain dungeons, except for gloves, which makes it a little harder to get - while assassiantion drops in normal mode of certain dungeons.

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Wastewalker Armor

Wastewalker Armor è lo Set delle Spedizioni 3. Lui contiene 5 pezzi. Ha bonus di 2 e 4 pezzi.

	Wastewalker Tunic (1)
	Wastewalker Gloves (1)
	Wastewalker Helm (1)
	Wastewalker Leggings (1)
	Wastewalker Shoulderpads (1)

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Indossando più pezzi di questa serie trasmetterà bonus per il tuo personaggio.

2 pezzi: Increases your hit rating by 35.
4 pezzi: Your attacks have a chance to grant you 160 attack power for 15 sec.

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