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Commento di sacredxavier

a good boon for warriors; i was seriously disappointed when i realised i couldnt get this for my paladin. after all, while wyrmslayer pauldrons are better, i wouldnt mind a free blue that serves as a quest reward. This is a good replacement for Herod's Shoulder unless you got some other plate shoulder for the amour bonuses. Big Bad Pauldrons, while easy to get for warriors, isn't even as good as Emerald Peak Spaulders which you get from a quest in Feralas. This is clearly a good shoulder equip for not just warriors, but paladins as well - if they could even get it, of course.

Commento di 33429

Actually, these have hit rating. They are the highest dps blue shoulders you can get until BC gear, or a lucky random drop off abyssal royals. Wyrmslayer are inferior for dps. 1.2% hit (or so, at 50) is much more damage than 4 attack power... and they have 2 more agility as well. On top of it all, they don't look like ass, as wyrmslayer do.

Commento di Swordy

fury warrior should get this over the helm because you cant get +hit on shoulders easily.

Commento di Thottbot

I play a Level 60 Warrior, and of these rewards, only the Flask is going to be of use to me.

Those of you considering the Plate, that's fine, it Is decent Plate, but you'll find better in the long run.

The Flask is really quite handy though, +75 STR and Health Regen For 1 Minute in 6. You can use that for quite some time.

Commento di Thottbot

I'm gonna have to go with the helm for my fury warrior. Sure the % to hit on these is fine...but the stats and armor really can't compare with Bloodsoaked Pauldrons, which are my new goal for DPS-ing shoulders. Also, the trinket is pretty nice, but I'd rather use my Blackhand's Breadth/Hand of Justice combo for constant use than use the flask with its cooldown. The trinket also isn't anywhere near as good as a Frostwolf rank 6/Vigilance Charm combo for tanking, so it's of no use there, either.

So ultimately, because there are better trinkets and because the shoulders can be replaced with a better drop (for level 60's who run ZG regularly, anyway), the helm is the best reward, unless you already have a Lionheart Helm or are close to getting one.

Commento di Thottbot

Sometimes ya just gotta consider the overall lifespan of your loot. In terms of equipment life I look at it this way:
Diamond Flask > Fury Visor > Razor Shoulders

Even at 50 you can get shoulders that are adequate replacements for these. The Fury Visor is harder to replace but it is replaceable. The Trinket will last the longest depending on what Trinkets you have or will eventually have. I currently use Blackhands Breadth which I never remove nowadays. On the other ear its a mix of Corporal Insignia, Peasant Caller and Cannonball Runner. Usually swap 'em around while one is cooling down. I would throw the Flask into rotation and its generally more useful in PvE. In an Undead heavy instance I use the Seal of the Dawn. I'd use the Fury Visor right now (currently I'm being silly and using the Eye of Rend) but it would get replaced, possibly in the near future, so I will take the Flask.

I'd say if your character is an engineer, take the Fury Visor. You already have enough trinkets as it is, no need for additional clutter. If you're a smith go for the Flask. You can make Darkrune to tide you over till that special day that Lionheart drops.

Commento di Thottbot

by far the flask is most useful, +75 strenghth and health regen is pretty frieken useful for every 5 minutes of play. and besides if ur a hardcore player, u might use the helm or shoulders for maybe 3 weeks or a month tops, think about the flask.

Commento di Thottbot

I am reading a lot of "Visor easily replaced by Lionheart." Are you kidding? "Easy"? How many f'ing hours a day do you have? Not to mention the fact that the (EPIC!) plans for that haven't even dropped yet on every single server, which means a lot of people just surf this site for better gear and then plug it like it ain't sh*t. The helm is outstanding. It's not "easily" replaced by anything. All three of these are nice rewards, certainly better than the Paly quest crap. Of course at the end of the day Valor trumps the Plate, so the people backing the trinket are technically correct, but the plate can still last you 10 levels.

As for ripping people who want pictures, don't be a f*cking nazi about it. Some people are artsie style/drama queens (like them) and some people are boring numbers-only dorks (like you). Translation: live and let live.

EDIT: Uh, why did everyone forget Stoneform Shoulders? (Including myself, lol.) A much easier item to get than Lionheart Helm (seeing as how, you know, some servers don't even HAVE L.H. Helm), therefore making the Fury Visor a smarter long-term buy. Even for Fury spec'ed Warriors (like mine), 1% to hit is not worth giving up 200 armor and 1.5 "levels" worth of Defense.

Commento di Thottbot

Maybe a pic would be nice..

Commento di Thottbot

I intend to use these on my warrior for a good long time--once I get to 50, that is... =)

Show me another pair of plate shoulders with +hit? There's only one that I can think of, and that's the abyssal plate spaulder random drops in Silithus.

For fury warriors, +hit > everything. Fury warrs miss a lot, and by stacking +hit, they drastically improve their hit to miss ratio and DPS goes up a lot as a result.

After all, AP and crit is worthless if you can't hit the mob. =P

Commento di Thottbot

what do u thinks the best im nit sure but either the shoulders or the helm?

Commento di Thottbot

These shoulders are decent for their level but if you're looking for +hit then go for abyssal. Pretty much identical except 13 str/agi/sta and about 100 more armor.

Otherwise pick up the BOE rare with 14 str/sta, 9 agi.

My problem is I can't decide between helm or trinket... I have no plans to shell out for Lionheart and I HATE cooldown trinkets. I have enough cooldowns to worry about, I'd rather use Blackhands and Guard Capt (or w/e it's called) until I can get HoJ.

Commento di Thottbot

these shoulders are good.... but they look like crap :D

Commento di Thottbot

any1 got a pic?

Commento di Thottbot

I want pictures, i like to check how a item looks... :S

Commento di Thottbot

The helm is better than the shoulder!anyway, you can have ''big bad pauldron'' better for a warrior (12 str,(12 stam and 8 sprit).Big bad pauldron is droppe in Zul farrak

Commento di Thottbot

come on someone show us the pic of this thing :( i wanna see it!

Commento di Thottbot

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20517

Commento di Thottbot

People if you cannot get some good shoulders i suggest you use these decent stats and they dont look bad. If you have some awesome shoulders like Wyrmslayer spaulders screw these get the dam trinket! but otherwise these are ok

Commento di Thottbot

these shoulders or the trinket are the things to pick the helm is replaced quickly and the trinket is good if ur in trouble but these stats are nice for any specced warrior

~52war gilneas

Commento di Thottbot

So these shoulders suck right?...
Can anyone pinpoint me any shoulders that are easily obtainable and have +hit? Can you? I though you couldn't

Ok can anyone pinpoint me any helms with similar stats to Crappy Visor? Let's see

Lionheart Helm (oh it's crafted skip that)
Helm of the Executioner(drops from baron 14 STR/20 Stamina/+2 hit)

So the %^&*ing lifespan for the items is

Diamond Flask>Razorsteel Shoulders>Fury Visor

Don't you ppl understand that it's really @#$%ing hard to find decent shoulders for pvp & pve and you come here and say oh get the trinket or helm $%^& the shoulders...

Do you know when is the next upgrade for your shoulders? For Arms warriors its ZG for Fury warriors which need as much +hit as they can get is hmmm Conqueror's from AQ40 (lol try and get them) rank 13 Shoulders (yeah right) and last but not least Dreadnought Shoulders (Easily Farmable!)
Ok i agree shoulders are crap take the helm and enjoy it for the next 6 lvls...

P.S. There are also Darksoul Soulders (24 stamina +1 hit but if you want to spend 300g to buy 10 souldarite be my guest) and Abyssal Plate Epaulets (which are more rare then Dreadnought Shoulders)
P.S.2 L2play warrior!

Commento di Thottbot

I'd gladly be your guest. If you have reasonable guildmates, they'll let you collect the Souldarites from ZG, or help you farm dungeon set items, Black Lotus etc. Even though I have a full time job, I could get the shoulders in about two weeks while doing the usual guild runs, no farming at all. Skip Razorsteel Shoulders, go get that Diamond Flask - it rocks.

Commento di Thottbot

I'll tell you right now if the trinket didn't own, I'd take them in a heartbeat. Omg I lose 1 str, get 1 more agi, and lose 7 stam for a hit! Whatever will I do with more chance to hit? Hit may not be that important for an arms warrior, but it is a fury warriors bread and butter. With one more hit (4 currently) I have a 100% chance to hit against a level 60 mod. That means no misses, just dodges, parries, whatever.

Commento di Thottbot

If you are a fury warrior and plan on staying that way, get the shoulders instead of the visor. The visor may look real tempting, but it'll eventually, possibly soon, get replaced. There is almost nothing better than these shoulders for dw fury dpsing.

Commento di Thottbot

get the shoulders cuz the helm can be substituted with https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=53354

Commento di Thottbot

These shoulders can be replaced rather easily if you plan ahead. Honor is permenant now, and as such, the pvp shoulders are quite possible now. Alternately, you could opt for the AB shoulders, which no longer have a rep requirement. I don't know what trinkets might be available to replace the diamond flask (blackhand's and pvp maybe...) so I will probably get the flask on my warrior. Hopefully she will hit AV enough to buy herself a GM 2hander before she hits 60, with change to spare.

Commento di Thottbot

Ok, if you get these shoulders and still want a good helm for around lvl 50, do the quest line that starts with the Screecher Spirits, and with the final quest you can get the Avenguard helm.

=D

Commento di Thottbot

great for fury warriors:D

Commento di Thottbot

I've just been doing this quest and have been thinking about what to take as a reward, and I think I go for the trinket, shoulders can be replaced by Stockade Pauldrons and helm by Lionheart Helm, the trinket could be replaced by the lvl 51 (?) epic trinket, but tbh this trinket seems a lot better, 6min CD and the buff is for 1min!

Commento di Thottbot

i would get the flask because when you get your chain gear (like the valor set) those things wont be that good..
i might have gotten the helm but that trinket is good for me. i only have 200 str. for a lvl 51(if you think thats low) but when you get the trinket i can make it 275 and i can have health re-gen too.
think before you pick becasuae you only have one chance unless you make a new warrior and do this all over again...

Commento di Thottbot

I have been thinking about this for quite some time now. I have Wyrmslayer Spaulders for dps and Stockade Pauldrons for tanking (I am an Arms warrior). Razorsteel Shoulders would be an upgrade from Wyrmslayer, due to the +hit, and won't be replaced until Jade Warrior Pauldrons at level 59. I have Mugthol's Helm and will grab Avenguard Helm for dps/tanking, and have been farming the mats to acquire Lionheart Helm at level 56, so Fury Visor would be a short-lived upgrade. Then there is the trinket. Right now I have the Level 48 Talisman of Arathor and Arena Master. Arena Master's +5 Stamina is rather weak. A six minute cooldown is rather respectable, and this appears to be the most significant upgrade, as long as I keep an eye on its cooldown and pop it whenever it comes up, for the +75 strength alone, as the healing effect is useless (Talisman of Arathor absorbs 392-478 damage). Could someone identify what trinket would replace this the Flask?

Commento di Thottbot

As a full arms(and 1 or two in prot)warrior, which of these would be best? Is there anyone that can shate a bit of info to this warrior?

Commento di Thottbot

yah imma go with trink cause it doesnt say that it has reduced effects after lvl 70 and the houlders can be upgraded by outlands at 57 same with helm but you cant find another trinket quite like that - very unique

Commento di Thottbot

Whao whao ok these are very painfully obviously tank shoulders since they give you more stats over the pure crit. The fury or arms warrior (dps/pvp) is over in that helm. You might be able to replace it but due to these stats i'd go for it anyway. Crit rating = flurry. 2h crits = OW YOU GOT ME!.

Commento di Thottbot

yeah, dont get fouled by the fansy shoulders and the helm, take the trinket, because its a once in a charecters life time chance to get this trinket. You might find something like it, but you will never find that trinket anywhere again.

Just like all thoes players who completed the quest with the Dartol's Rod of Transformation, can never go back and turn into at Furborlg anytime, anywhere anymore.

so my advice don't do anything you truly will regret someday, and imo regretting is a wast of time.

Commento di Allakhazam

I'm Arms-specced and am currently wearing Wyrmslayer Spaulders. I don't really see these as being an upgrade, although the post about Miss Rate seems important regarding them. What are Arms Warriors taking? I'm assuming the Flask, but I can be forgetful when it comes to activating trinkets! Was thinking it or the Fury Visor even as Arms. Thanks in advance.

Commento di Allakhazam

Wyrmslayer Spaulders wyrmslayer's... what am i saying. Im a reaper weilding crit monkey! MINE!

Commento di Allakhazam

Nice shoulders. I think the helmet is better, though. Plate helms with crit arent numerous. And the helm has +1 to hit and crit.

Unless you know someone who can make Lionheart helm, the helmet is the best choice, IMO.

These razorsteels look bad too. two steel plate ssquares on each shoulders. Meh.

Commento di Allakhazam

+hit is fantastic for fury builds now, and iirc the only other options for shoulders with hit are:

abyssal
darksoul (more sta and armor but no str or agi)
truestrike (2% hit and equivalent attack power but far less armor)
wyrmhide (2% hit but even less armor and nothing else)

which means that until you're lucky enough to get into endgame epics or a pair of abyssals, these are the best dps shoulders you'll come across. there aren't even any epics with +hit yet, while lionheart is a relatively easy upgrade from fury visor in comparison.

(the trinket's very nice too, but i prefer passive bonuses like blackhand+rune myself. shoulders were an easy choice :)

Commento di Allakhazam

Hey, how about a picture? I dunno whether to get these or save for Wyrmslayers (IMO Wyrmslayers are better and look uber).

Commento di Allakhazam

so im having trouble
should i get
Wyrmslayer Spaulders
Binds when equipped
ShoulderPlate
403 Armor
+12 Strength
+12 Stamina
+8 Agility
Requires Level 46

or

Razorsteel Shoulders
Binds when picked up
ShoulderPlate
410 Armor
+10 Strength
+9 Stamina
+10 Agility
Equip: Increases your hit rating by 10.

i really dont know
Wyrmslayer Spaulders have more strength, stamina, less agility, and less armor]
so idk which to get

Commento di Gulanga

These shoulders are great, however the trinket option, Diamond Flask, is amazing and will last you much longer than these shoulders will.
This makes these shoulders the "wrong" choice as a reward. You should of course pick what you like in the end, but do think about it.

Commento di Kittyx

Class	Starting Quest	Rewards To Choose From at the End of the Questline
Druid	A Better Ingredient	Grizzled Pelt, Forest's Embrace or Moonshadow Stave.
Hunter	The Green Drake	Hunting Spear, Devilsaur Eye or Devilsaur Tooth.
Mage	Destroy Morphaz	Glacial Spike, Arcane Crystal Pendant or Fire Ruby.
Paladin	Forging the Mightstone	Lightforged Blade, Sanctified Orb or Chivalrous Signet.
Priest	Blood of Morphaz	Blessed Prayer Beads, Woestave or Circle of Hope.
Rogue	The Azure Key	Ebon Mask, Whisperwalk Boots or Duskbat Drape.
Shaman	Da Voodoo	Azurite Fists, Wildstaff or Enamored Water Spirit.
Warlock	Trolls of a Feather	Soul Harvester, Abyss Shard or Robes of Servitude
Warrior	Voodoo Feathers	Diamond Flask, Fury Visor or Razorsteel Shoulders.

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Razorsteel Shoulders

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Binds when picked up

Shoulder	Piastre

410 Armatura
+10 Forza
+10 Agilità
+9 Tempra
Integrità 80 / 80

Equipaggia: Increases your hit rating by 10.

Prezzo di vendita: 1 71 13

Razorsteel Shoulders

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