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Commento di Azezeil

Found this while doing some quests at Manaforge Ultris in Netherstorm. I'm guessing it's a random world drop.

Commento di 16907

What mob did you get the drop from, the Voidwalkers? Seeing thats it BoP most likely means only 1 mob drops it.

Commento di Subject

I believe I found it from an Archer (it was definetely a humanoid) at one of the Manaforges. Kinda wish it wasn't BoP seeing im dropping engineering shortly.

Commento di Pedwin

Just dropped for me from one of the Sunfury Bowman at Manaforge Duro after about 40 or so kills.

Commento di 15826

Wierd i just found mine from the sunfury bowman at manaforge duro also and guess what it was on the 40th kill also lol.

Commento di 16907

I think it was more like 140 kills for me but, I got it eventually.

Commento di Achilles

Yes Balnazaar Achilles 40-60 kills and now i have it

Commento di 15539

Also found this about 20 bowmen in.

Commento di sebag2

2nd bowman dropped it

Commento di 20187

The respawn rate on the guys that drop it absolutely sucks. :-(

Commento di 21016

Can only drop if you have Engineering, 360 skill or more, right?

Commento di 19017

5th or so bowman dropped it for me

Commento di 21016

Dropped on my 150-200th Sunfury Bowman

Commento di 22965

Can this be used through trade window?

Commento di 23424

Engineering needs a boost.

Commento di 24303

I've killed like 160 of these and no drop :( I'm going to try again when I get home.

Commento di 23424

got it the other day,it didnt take logn,like 15mobs,but that was the 3rd time i farmed it,totally took less than 50 kills,not bad,but then again i might got lucky

Commento di 24303

-.- still no khorium schematic and trying for felsteel broomstick too.

Commento di 26535

Clean row of Sunfury Bowmen (5) 62,66
Front entrance of Manaforge Duro (4) 58, 62
West Road of Manaforge Duro (3) 56, 63
Southernwest Ridge /w Daellis (4) 56, 66

Took me two, 2 hour farming sessions, just circle around, they'll respawn if you're the only one farming.

Commento di 17526

It took me 194 kills.... uggg.

By the way, there are a couple of Centurions and some named archer guy that agro funny near the bowmen.

Commento di maurice

I don't know how many kills I had, but i looted 36 sunfury signets before it dropped.

Commento di karden

149 sunfury signet's, 14 Arcane tome's, a lot of Netherweave Cloth + green trash. But NO schematic..... =(((

Commento di MALitchfield

The additional bonus to farming this schematic is that the Sunfury Bowmen drop Firewing Signets and Tomes for Scryer reputation OR to sell for decent gold on the AH.

Commento di 3ceph0los

You cannot sell this schematic being that it is BoP. You will NOT find this in the AH.

It only drops from the Sunfury Bowmen by Manaforge Duro in Netherstorm. Be careful of the Elf with an Elemental who walks amongst where you are playing (Hunters, keep your Track Elementals on for a warning)!

It took me personally around 2.5 hours to find the drop. It is like a hidden Engineering quest. Eventually the recipe will drop.

Commento di Brodaty

It took me about 3 hours of pure farming, also c.a. 120 sunfury signets, one blue Ilidarian cloak drop, Enchant chest +15 resilience and couple green items. I made 25% of 69 level also there - seems not so bad exp grinding method, however, not so good drops there.

Commento di 41907

This was a pain to get but now that i have it phew! .
Anyway as any engineer that reaches lv 360 knows that anything else is just a waste of time lvling, ive decided to keep training to lv 375 im not far off it thanks to the khorium scope. took me 3.5 Hrs to farm in a Anti-clockwise around duro to get this, nothing that great dropped except signets..

Scope's usually sell for high enough amount to compensate for the making bill, make a few and then you can make more , then you have kinda stable cash flow.

Commento di 23824

Been Farming the bowmen for the past three hours i only have 53 Sunfury Signets and 2 Arcane Tombs, and of course no scamatic. THis is probibly the worst farm I have ever done. They are hard to kill, me being a 70 Hunter, due to there immolation arrow which hurts like a bitch. Its not worth it for 2 extra DPS. Its not even worth selling in the AH when you do make it.

60= Ore Khorium and 2 40g gems. Sould sell for 200+ but only sells for 130g. Dont waste your time.

Commento di 27812

3 sunfury signets

9 minutes later

i got this pattern, cake drop

Commento di 2008

I used donjuan's method in a clockwise fashion. Six laps around the forge, 3 Arcane Tomes, and 22 Sunfury Signets later, it dropped.

Commento di 36978

If you plan to farm for this, make sure you are able to devote a large portion of time, like 4 straight hours, to farm for it. If you come and go multiple times, each time just killing for a few mintues, you aren't really farming, your just trying to get lucky.

Also, try to do it at like 1am server time or something, when there isn't many ppl on. It might also help to have a /yell macro saying something like "I'm trying to kill the bowmen for an engineer drop...please party with me if you need to kill them for a quest".

I was very lucky...got mine on the 10th drop. Its gotta be the only luck I've had on drops in TBC yet :D.

Commento di 31458

After 2.5 hrs, 4 Arcane Tomes, and 40 Sunfury Signets it finally dropped. I farmed duo with a hunter and we would kill the bowmen faster than they'd respawn, so I imagine solo you'd always have ones to kill. It's a pain, but one of the best ways to level engineering to 375, so it's worth it.

Commento di 20320

Question... does killing other mobs diminish your chance of getting a rare drop? Because I couldn't help but getting at basically every single spot.

I've killed 489 of them, have over 300 Netherweave, 60 Signets, 14 Tomes, four greens, and an epic that's not even on their drop list.

But NO SCHEMATIC. Anyone who can comment?

Commento di Tunes

I have a story to tell about my farming experience.
Well, i was farming for about an hour, i understood that it would take a while to get. So im minding my own business farming the bowmen, then i see a paladin up ahead attacking one of the bowmen, the bowmen I was about to attack next. He kills the bowmen, i didnt mind too much.

So, i politely ask him if he could stop attacking the other bowmen, because i was trying to get an engineer schematic. He then whispers me "It just dropped on this guy" and links it.. He was also an engineer but didn't know that it drops there.
At this point im freaking out, seriously, my luck is horrid.

I hope you don't have to experience the same thing as i did, good luck farming. :p

Commento di Aerandul

Spent two evenings farming this, roughly three hours or so. 58 Sunfury Signets, Four Arcane Tomes, a bunch of deaths due to that damned patrolling named bowman ALWAYS getting me, and about 6 stacks of netherweave later, it dropped :)

Good way to make money this. There's a few nodes spawn nearby for farming mats, and all those rep things definitely sell. Now off to get a felsteel boomstick, and hopefully loads of fel armaments ;)

Commento di Koori

I decided to farm this recipe after reaching 371 in engineering and not having any “cheap” recipes. As my partner finished of the first elf I jokingly said, “The first one could drop it and make it easy.” At that moment a pop up window appeared in my screen asking if I wanted to roll on Schematic: Khorium Scope. I’m sure whatever I farm next I’ll spend weeks getting it, but that had to be the best moment in game for me in a little while. ~ K

Commento di siggboy

If you have no flying mount, this grind can be slightly tedious because you need to kill a few conjurers and centurions that are in the way of the bowmen. So either wait for 70/flying mount or expect a slightly longer grind.

Commento di 41157

you might want to remember that this doesn't drop from Sunfury Archers. I farmed them for 3 hours before i gave up and rechecked this site. Lucky for me it dropped on about the 6th or 7th bowman that i killed :)

Commento di ubertaz

All of you should consider yourselves lucky! I have farmed these bowmen for 3 hours a day for the last 3 days and gotten nothing but greens, 18g in repairs, and spent at least 10 stacks of water so far! It's OK to laugh--I feel like laughing at me too!

Commento di 11556

Was doing quest and knew they dropped the pattern decided to kill one and guess what. It dropped on my first kill of a sunfury bowmen ever. =] im lucky

Commento di 37526

guess i was lucky took me 5 kills and it droped xD

Commento di 54307

I farmed for and hour and a half one day and nothing, I came back a week later and got it on my 4th kill :)

Commento di 77645

If you don't actually care about being able to craft the scope, don't bother!
Adamantite Rifle is still green at 370.
-requires 16 ore per
for 5pts thats 5/.25 = ~20 to make

20*16= 320 adamantite ore ~needed
+40 earth (which is easy if you mine the 320 ore)
+160 fel iron ore which is stupid easy

OR this thing:
for 5pts you need 5/.75 = ~6.66 or 7
6.66*60ore= 400ore needed (on LOW end)
+48-56 khorium ore (4 bars=8ore * 6or7)
+12-14 Dawnstone

If it stays green til 375, go with the rifle. I have a feeling you will get 40 earth (and 160 fel iron ore) waaaay before you find 56 khorium ore and 14 dawnstones. Only thing might be the 240 thorium, but you're 70, go for it.

Commento di 76866

For reference~
Dropped the 234th kill

63 Sunfury Signets
186 Netherweave Cloth
ONE green

Commento di hitmehard

This is a very easy farm for this Schematic. The drop chance is rather high if you're an Engineer. it dropped for me at the 8th kill and some people even got it at their 1st!

A lot more satisfactory then the grind for the Schematic: Felsteel Boomstick!

Commento di 82255

I have been farming the four spots given for 3 hours no plan i must not be lucky.

Commento di Foxpaw

My advice: SKIP THE ONES ON THE WESTERNMOST SPOT. Unless stuff isnt respawning fast enough, Master Daellis will drive melee fighters mad. He pulls 2 archers with him, and if you're on the wrong end, you'll keep aggroing the mana wraiths, which although they can be one-shotted by most, just wont stop re-aggroing you.

Commento di Wezagred

1 and a half hour of farming, and I got the beauty.
More like, 65 Sunfury Signets, 4 Arcane Tomes and 5 Common Items after ;)
But It is different from person to person. some get it on first try, others get it after alot of hours of farming, and as a melee shaman (Enhance), they are quite annoying those bowmen when I aggro more than one. Specially Master Daellis, 1 snare, and another slow effect which hurt like hell.

Commento di Atraira

A note to PROT PALLIES!

The usual round em up and aoe em down strat does NOT work on these guys. They will start netting you and then run in all directions, shooting immolation arrows at you. I recommend throwing on some melee dps gear, pulling out the ol 2h, and burning them down one at a time.

Commento di 45811

Just got it. 366 kills, and that doesn't include about 500-600 or so others since my counters have gotten lost twice since I started grinding for it.

I hit 375 engineering on green Adamantie Rifles long before I got this to drop. I hate random numbers.

Good luck to you. Can't be worse than mine!

Commento di 43204

I got very lucky. This pattern dropped after 6 kills.

Commento di 85488

Quite an easy farm for a hunter. Just did circles.4 to be more precise... Dropped in around 30 minutes I think

Commento di 89033

Killed like 20-30 bowmans and got it, this is nice to level up the skill coz lots of hunters want it.

Commento di 23727

Got mine from Sunfury Bowman located here: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=20207

I was in a group for Heroic Mech, we were trying to find a tank, figuring I had a while I thought I may as well settle in and grind these guys and try and get the schematic before we started. I take down the first guy and low and behold it dropped right there and then. I had to LOL. Here I was actually hoping for a long grind to pick up some signets and cloth to sell and I get it on the first guy.

Commento di 59004

3 kills. Worked out really well.
Still not sure if it is cheaper than making: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23762

Commento di Lorania

I've never been lucky with drops, I've actually never found one single blue in my entire 2½ year wow life. BUT, it took me 10 kills to find some Design pattern and another 10 to find this one, barely 15 minutes grinding, what a bliss!

Commento di 70855

I hate these random drops. Hundred's of bowman dead but still no drop.

Commento di Alecs

After i read here about rate drop i took my all patience and go to farm, but surprise... after 3 respawn and a one died on hill where the guy runing the recipe drops... realm: neptulon. GL at farming!

Commento di Dorkfish

Thought I would share my drop rate to give you all an idea. I have had several different farming sessions. I picked it up after the 93rd kill.

Commento di Xanthu

This is the way to put the last levels on your engineering skill. The farming is not to bad, either. Took me about 90-100 kills in about 1.5 hours. (Marksmanship spec Hunter) Also, while killing these guys I made some quick gold from the coin that they dropped, a TON of netherweave cloth which sells for 3g20s a stack on my server, couple of Arcance Tomes, a TON of sunfury signets and a couple of greens to sell or DE. All and all, not a bad couple of hours. I highly recommend this to all engineers.

Manaforge Duro - Sunfury Bowmen

(Immolation Trap arrows really hurt)

Commento di 92384

Eh, wow... guess I'm luckier than I thought.

I went to Manaforge Duro and killed the 5 (6?) of them on the hill just outside the structure (eastern side) shooting their immolation arrows randomly into the ground and was pretty well able to pick them off one by one. I would charge one of them and turn them so my back was to the potential adds and they'd usually cooperate and run away from the adds (staying in front of me) instead of towards them (behind me) as a result.

I cleared them once, went to the path leading up to the Manaforge from the north side and killed 3-4 Bowmen there (with a few adds... more cluttered area) and then went back to my first spot on the eastern side to pick off the respawns.

I got the drop on my 10th or 12th or so Bowman total, took me less than 30 minutes. They're pretty squishy mobs who die easily as well... I was able to burn them down very quickly as a full-out prot spec warrior (Lv70, but still, prot spec) in my tanking gear in berserker stance using Vindicators Brand+Crystalblade of the Draenei and WW+Devastate spam. Any true DPS class/build should be able to watch TV and press hotkeys and kill them off np.

Edited because I initially said west and south instead of east and north.

Commento di hostile

It dropped for me on my 6th circuit around the manaforge. Being a BM hunter the killing was fast, maybe took me an hour tops.

Commento di 106651

OK 8 hours total farming and finally got!!!
Was a pain but got bunch rings tombs cloth couple korm lock boxs and 5 blues sooo in long run was ok good luck !!!
Got mine off of bowman near entrance so good HUNTING :)

Commento di 95909

Woot! Just got mine.
Spent 2 hours and a half farming it... And also got it in the main entrace's first bow man.

Good luck for who's farming it.

Commento di 112927

Been farming for a hour or so now. Just killing the bowmen around Manaforge duro.

I was curious, what if it dropped before hand, and was deleted. Will it drop again?

Commento di 77382

Killed about 350 of them now, hasn't dropped for me as of yet. (plus i did kill hundreds of them with no luck even before I knew this recipe existed).

Oh joy of joys, this is looking to be a long (and jinxed) grind. >.<

Commento di scribb

Dropped on my tenth kill.

Thankfully. As grinding these guys on a Holy Paladin in healing gear was... slow.

Commento di 119761

this dropped for me after about 20 mins farming the Bowmen. Dropped from one of the bowmen next to Daelis

Commento di 29614

Item dropped, much to my amazement, on the very first kill. Excellent, considering I had to kill about 50 of the Archers for the Adamantite Stinger schematic prior to that....

Commento di 29333

Took me 14mins.

Commento di 85114

The droprate for this (and that goes for any other TBC pattern/schematic/recipe that is bind on pickup) obviously is higher than stated in the statistic. Don't forget that this is the overall droprate of all kills, including people who are not engineers, so it won't ever drop for them.
0.4% means 4 out of 1000 will drop it, so you would have to kill an average of 250, but it will always drop before you killed that many.

Commento di Dooks

Farmed for 3 days... no drop... gave up.
Came back for quest and dropped from first kill.
It's just luck.

Commento di Cidoc

Just to further provide stats:

- You do not need the schematic's minimum 360 Engineering for this to drop. I was at 356.
- It took me 2 trips to get the schematic. ~100 Bowman the first time and ~50 the second.
- I ended up with 7 Arcane Tombs, ~85 Sunfury Signets, ~10 greens and enough gold to easily cover expenses (arrows, flight, repairs).

Commento di Shaquillee

I just farmed this about 2 hours ago, dropped on the 67th kill. I guess I had some good luck for once :)

Commento di moggsy

Got it after 101 signets, which is ~300 mob kills.
Not trying to enlarge my epeen or anything, just want to tell everyone that it IS possible :P

All of you frustrated engineers, just crank some good tunes and keep on grinding. You'll get it sooner or later!

Commento di Yodhrin

I just got this while I was on the kill quest that required 6 bowman, 8 conjurers and 4 centurions. The only problem is my engineering is only level 1!!!

I have to skill up now :-)

Commento di 97638

its not easy to farm around Manaforge Duro are there 6-10 Sunfury Bowmans i am a engineer and i dropped a other rare item to: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31275 its be a nice price for get it so as want the schematic its not alone the schematic that drops it be can a other item to but its good

i play on Trollbane EU name: Boaz lvl 70 rogue

Commento di 60672

Well i was working on my daily quest (the one that requires you to obtain the Sunfury Attack Plans) and it was about my 5th or 6th kill and this dropped. The drop rate may be low but just goes to show you how random it can be.

Commento di 118425

I currently have killed 200+ bowmen, no drop. But I have gotten:
-200Netherweave
-BoE Blue https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31306
-10ish Greens
-50 Sunfury Signets
-5 Arcane tomes
-50G ish.

Still goin.

Ok good news! Finally got it! but final kill count was 600+

When it did finally drop, it dropped with a blue meta random drop design, so farming this was super worthwhile. I'd recommend all engineers short on cash rep and who have a lot of time do this. With the amount of kills you may have to do...there is a high rate of making a lot of gold.

Commento di jaffy

For me, this schematic dropped off the 50th or so kill. All in all, the grind was quite pleasant, for the bowmen are easy to take down, and the Scryer rep was great too. I highly suggest that any engineer should grind this schematic.

My loot list:

25 Sunfury Signets
2 greens
3 stacks of netherweave
0 Arcane Tomes
1 epic pattern (omg)

Commento di 144488

Third attempt, first & second time did about an hour. Third attempt, just over 2 hours and finally got it! Can't remember wot drops I had the first 2 times. Today I ended up with; 110 Netherweave Cloth, 1 green drop, 1x Arcane Tome & 26 Signets. Must admit I would have expected more greens but don't really care as long as I got the schem!!

Commento di mizou

what can i say 1st kill
/flex

Commento di 2804

My experience, and that of a few friends who're also Engineers, has been that this drop can be a royal pain.

Personally, it took me five weeks of a couple hours a day killing Bowmen to finally get the schematic. My friends each reported a couple weeks of the same themselves. Thank goodness I had another toon that needed Scryer rep - I got probably 8-10k rep worth of Scryer items and a ton of netherweave in the process.

Anyway, be prepared to make the somewhat irritating circuit between the three major clumps of Bowmen for a long time. Random drops are, indeed, random.
Oh, and watch out for the Glacius Elemental and for Daelis. They can be troublesome if you aren't expecting them to add.

Commento di 121278

Agreed, it can take a long time!

I have spent over 10 hours of solid circuits, and it still hasn't dropped! I only want it to get the last 5 points in Engineering, but am beginning to wonder if it is worth it or not now!

Commento di Meatball123

yay got it on my first kill, is all luck :)

Commento di 46481

The mobs that drop this patteren are located around Manaforge Duro (59,65) in Netherstorm. It is dropped by Sunfury Bowman, not the Sunfury Archers and it is a rare drop so be prepared to make some time to get this item. Lastly this item is bind on pickup so don't expect it to be in the action house and only Engineers can get this item to drop.

Some tips that have been mentioned in earlier posts by other people are:

Hunter can have Track Elementals up to watch for a Summoner Kanthin
Pallies and Mages should not be trying to mass pull then aoe them. They are ranged mobs and will just stand where they are.
You can have any ammount of Engineering skill to get this to drop. Even if you just picked up engineering and are at 1/75
It may take 2-3 hours for it to drop
Keep an eye open for Chief Engineer Lorthander. He is a rare spawn and drops Illidari Cloak. But keep in mind he can spawn at Manaforge Ara, Manaforge Coruu, or Manaforge Duro.

You can also find the 4 groups of Sunfury Archers at these locations:

Clean row of Sunfury Bowmen (5) 62,66
Front entrance of Manaforge Duro (4) 58, 62
West Road of Manaforge Duro (3) 56, 63
Southernwest Ridge /w Daellis (4) 56, 66

And if you are only getting this patteren to level up your engineering skill to 375 you may want to reconsider with one of the 2 options.

Adamantite Rifle - A lot less expensive mats and its recipie can be bought from vendor.
Field Repair Bot 110G - Very useful to your guild for end game content. But its recipie is also a rare drop.

Commento di 172671

Got this bad boy during my second "rotation" of killing Bowmen. Second time I swooped around to start from point A to start farming again, it dropped. Maybe...20 kills?

Commento di Allakhazam

grinding for 2 weeks now, like 30 hours in total NOTHING FFS

Commento di Allakhazam

Crafting on Sporregar (EU) Horde side, just contact Lelina 'bout it.

Commento di Allakhazam

Says that vendor sells for 16g and buys for 4g.. Anyone know where?

Commento di Allakhazam

Dead on Gorgonnash (Horde) can craft this.

Commento di Allakhazam

On my protection warrior, thankfully it dropped after perhaps 4 or 5 kills... thankfully because I took quite a beating.

On my shadow priest, probably 60-70 kills to get the drop, along with lots of signets, some tomes, a BoE blue necklace, and the 4 of..... something.... you know one of those cards ;), and tons of netherweave.

So either you get lucky with a quick drop of the schematic, or you get lucky with good drops of other stuff on the way. Frustrating in a way, but still profitable, so I'm not complaining.

Commento di Allakhazam

It took a while. Three breaks to empty pack and bio.
It dropped. Bad thing was that about 6 of those eels were on me, and it asked you, do you want this, it's BOP. I had to run away, then come back.
Made it as soon as I learned it though. SWEET!

Commento di Allakhazam

Just got mine on about the 30th kill. Now Crafting on Blackwater Raiders, Horde side. Pst Hobbs.

Commento di Allakhazam

To anyone thinking about grinding for this is worth it. It will make leveling engineering to 375 very easy, sometimes profitable. The time for it are completely random as I got mine in about 30 minutes of killing Sunfury Bowman but other people took way longer judging by the previous posts.

Best of luck, Shakezoola.

Edited for mistakes, Jan 28th 2008 8:59am by MasterShakezoola

Edited, Jan 28th 2008 9:10am by MasterShakezoola

Commento di Allakhazam

Can anyone confirm if it drops BoP for non engineers as well? If thats not the case, than the actual drop rate for Engies would be higher, right?

Commento di Allakhazam

I just managed to get this solo as a 62 hunter but it wasn't easy at all. The graveyard is right behind the manaforge, right next to the cosmowrench flight path. There are five bowmen in the back, and usually you can pull one at a time but often I'd get two, finish one off then die. Res, loot, repeat. After every single one I was down to like 10% health and 10% mana. For a while I was on a roll where one would respawn, I'd kill him and have time to eat and drink before the next one respawned.

Killed probably 100 of them, dying at least a dozen times. Cost me around 25g in repairs and I ended up with 20 signets and 44 netherweave cloths.

The engineering skill-up guide I was following said this schematic required 355 engineering but it's 360 as noted above. So looks like I'm spending another crapload of gold to get to 360 before I can even use it. :-/

Still though... WOOHOO!

edit: forgot to mention... when it finally dropped I got killed before I could loot it, TWICE! Thank god the graveyard is right there.

Edited, Mar 18th 2008 1:21am by Boarr

Commento di Allakhazam

So...total stats for me and this drop (70 T5 warlock eng/enchant 375)
170 bowmen
2:07 total farm time
7 greens
8 greys
75 signets
2 tomes
148 netherweave
14.56g (dropped and sold greys)
1 death (stupid Gladius thing snuck up on me when i wasnt looking)

Best tanking scope IMO. Stabilized adds crit but how often does a tank shoot to get that extra 1% chance. damage creates threat. forget it, id rather have more overall damage than a 1% greater chance to crit.

Eyes....melting...must...stop....farming...cant...click....

Crafting this on Aggramar horde side... Kinni

Edited, Jun 1st 2008 12:53am by daehuine

Commento di Allakhazam

Got it after 57 mintues of farming on my rogue.Pain in the ass, but it felt good when it dropped. I got a fair few sunfury signets and 2 arcane tomes whilst farming as well.

Commento di Allakhazam

After hearing that my friend killed over 80 mobs in order to get his recipe ... I really didn't want to bother grinding for it. However, I finally got up to Netherstorm and started farming ... 4th bowman kill and it dropped. ^^

Commento di Allakhazam

Ok, as for December 7, 2007, Sunfury Bowmen at Manaforge Duro still drop the khorium scope recipe.

The reason I say this, my gnome/mage spent over 2.5 hours yesterday farming with no drop. Today he got it after 45 minutes of farming.

Have a lot of engineers, probably too many: four engineers.

Since gnomes have +15 engineering skill bonus, my gnome didn’t need this recipe to skill from 360 to 375 engineering, but the others did. They farmed the recipe in well under an hour.

But once my engineers hit 375, it makes no sense for non gnomes to make khorium scopes. Their engineering skill is maxed. And hunters covet khorium scopes (90 - 100g each), so it makes sense to produce them. My gnome (377 engineering) will do this and khorium scopes will remain orange till he hits 385 (370 for non gnomes).

The good news:

If the khorium scope recipe is an annoyingly difficult drop, you'll end up with a lot of sunfury signets and arcane tomes.

Commento di Allakhazam

/cry! i was grinding archers!

Commento di Allakhazam

i got lucky on this drop about 15-20 kills last night for me to get mine! if you are on kargath, horde hit me up on thunderheart if you need one made.

Commento di Allakhazam

This took a good deal of patience to get. I farmed for it yesterday for several hours, racked up about 100 Bowman kills. Came back today for a few more hours and get about 100 more, finally gave up. Later I decided to give it another shot, and got it within 5 kills. I had actually come to the backside of the manaforge for the second time that session and after 2 kills, realized I had forgotten to loot a corpse, and there it was! Now I just have to get from 350 to 360 engineering!

So all in all took about 200 kills for me, over two days.

Commento di Allakhazam

Got it on 7th kill. Impressive, but at the same time kind of upsetting cause I was looking forward to getting signets and cloth too... lol

Commento di Allakhazam

Valley on Scarshield Legion (horde) can make em

Commento di Allakhazam

Vincebad on Frostmane Horde can mae this, he also has the pattern for the eternium scope.

Commento di Allakhazam

Camped the Sunfury Bowman for about 4-5 hours. 200+ kills. 60 Signets, 3 Tomes. Finally got this baby to drop. 375 Engineering...here I come! (2,000 gold later)

-Prodigus, 66 Human Mage
<Infamous> - Stormrage

Commento di Allakhazam

RatKing on Terenas (Alliance) can make both the scope and the rifle
The schematic dropped on the 9th kill :D

Edited, Mar 5th 2007 1:50am by Xelor

Commento di Allakhazam

no way! just after the drop on the Schematic: Felsteel Boomstick 5 min ago on the 1st mob I ve killed... it just took me the time to go to Netherstorm and after the 2nd Sunfury Bowman kill it drop me the Khorium Scope schematic...

I'm complete stun! :O and happy :)

i guess it's my payment for those bad rolls i keep having :)

Commento di Allakhazam

This was one of those patterns that I just never got around to getting, being a mage it wasn't too important. I decided to go try for it last night while I was waiting for my guilds TK run to start up, found the Bowmen and got it on the second one I killed, first time ever trying for it!

Commento di Allakhazam

like my 10th kill of the bowman...and bam...got it...Woot

Commento di Allakhazam

less than an hour of grinding. farmed the 3 spawn points around the manaforge. awesomeness.

Commento di Allakhazam

Nothing less than superperfect timing. Reached lvl 360....Had a quick look at this site....Yesterday i went grinding for the scope-plans....Killed maybe 40 Bowmen....Was called to help out a Guildmate. Later yesterday evening i bought the "Khorium Riffle"-Plans (25G) ^^
Logged on this evening. Killed another 5 Bowmen and then it dropped. From a Bowman at the entrace to the forge.

Commento di Allakhazam

Got mine tonight in 62 kills. Ended up with 38 sunfury signets and 2 arcane tomes.

Commento di Allakhazam

I just got this to drop i am now crafting it. Hit me up if you want one made

Commento di Allakhazam

Finally found this XD. Took about roughly 140 kills.
I also found it on a corpse I had forgotten to loot.
I farmed then by going back and fourth between the 3 main areas where they spawn.
This schem is also good for reaching 375, as most other items at my level (355) require much more expensive mats.

Commento di Allakhazam

On my way up to Netherstorm on my 66 Lock to farm for this, well, once my dimensional ripper comes off CD anyway. Badly want 375 eng so i can make the goblin engineering helm.

Hope it doesn't take me the rest of the night.

Edited, Mar 16th 2008 11:06pm by Cowardlee

Edit: 310 Kills
217 Netherweave
97 Sunfury Signets
7 Arcane Tomes
1 Green Plate Legs
1 Green Wand
1 JC Pattern for the Embrace of the Dawn
1 level up.
and finally, 1 Schematic: Khorium Scope.

God i hate this game.

Edited, Mar 17th 2008 10:17pm by Cowardlee

Commento di Allakhazam

I got it after 269 kills. Damn AutoBindOnPickup addon was meesing with me looting and I thought I was not going to be able to loot after 8 hours. I am a lvl 66 hunter, so it took me a bit with the respawn time. So glad I got it. Now to lvl Eng and sell.

Commento di Allakhazam

2nd kill for myself, i was amazed after seeing its a .38% and figured i was gonna be up there awhile.

Commento di Allakhazam

I was so cheerless when I read that the engineering skill is the hardest at 360-375... and an ornate khorium rifle(375 for craft) schematic droped for me yesterday, so i looked for some "item" which I can earn my skill, and I found 3 item, and I choose this but the droprate (0,28%) isnt so good so I went to nether and I start to farm... and the 32th mob drop it for me! This was so unbelievable so I'm now verry happy, btw:

In few days can craft this on EU-Darkmoon Faire (Pallyance site)
And Ornate Khorium Rifle, just /w Gotono

Commento di Allakhazam

dont forget drop rate % takes into account those ppl who loot them that ain't an engineer.

Commento di Allakhazam

434 kills
134 Sunfury Signets
xxx Netherweave Cloth
xx Greens
9 Arcane Tomes
48% in to new lvl
~ 90-110G for sold crap/incl greens
nd finally
1 Schematic: Khorium Scope.

god i just love this game :P

Edited, Jul 16th 2008 12:22pm by Orjanlax

Commento di Allakhazam

It's a BoP Drop form the sunfury Bowmans in Netherstorm, droppey yesterdy for me.

Only one who can build it on my server :)

Commento di Allakhazam

I can Craft this on Shattered hand Horde side PST in game

Onxana~

Commento di Allakhazam

I didn't get any blue drops, but I got it after about 2 hours and 60 Sunfury Signets, 4 Tomes.

Crafting on KARGATH Alliance - Valtian Send mail

Commento di Allakhazam

dropped for by a Wrathwalker in shadowmoon valley
Wrathwalker but happy to have it anyway :D

Commento di Allakhazam

Finally, had been farming the felsteel boomstick schematic for hours upon end, gave this one a try, about 1.5hrs of farming and this one dropped. Now back to the other.

Coach-Horde can make this if you need.

Commento di Allakhazam

Took me about 150-200 kills of the bowman to get it. The problem is, not many of them spawn. The ones at the front of the forge are all surrounded by other annoying mobs so I recommend killing the 5 or so that spawn in the back and just afk or something between spawns. Nothing will bother you back there.

Commento di Allakhazam

13 kills baby. Just 13.

Commento di Thottbot

Did this as a protection warrior, and farmed the group of Bowman at 62,67. Killed 61 of them before the schematic droppped.

I would avoid the group of bowman at 56,67. There is a named guy there called Master Daellis Dawnstrike who is a pain in the rear. Also this group of bowman tend to pull the Nether Beasts that are close by, and you can quickly end up with 4-6 mobs hitting you at once.

Commento di Thottbot

the main thing that really bugs me about this is the fact that its sooo expensive to make it and ppl arent not only not willing to pay the cost to make it, but about 25-50 gold less then the cost to make. engineers unite! make a profit off these or just plain flat out refuse to make them. its not like we get any real big moneymaker items to make anyway.if i start making these for over 100 gold cost im definately gonna want a nice hefty 25-40 gold profit on it as deserved

Commento di Thottbot

Dropped for me after maybe 100+ kills. I got 54 signets so you can probably work it out from that.

Mobs are:

55,64: 4-5 in an east west line (easy)
55,66: 4-5 in an east west line with a very nasty pat.
61,68: 6 in an east west line (easy)
58,62: 4 in a north south line (tough if you aggro too many + watch for pat)

Mobs are tough and you have pats and other mobs to contend with. Recommend to do at 70 or in a group if lower.

A flying mount will also make it much easier to move between groups - terrain is a pain otherwise.

Not worth it for the scope but worth it for an easier route to eng 375.

Minggy, Ghostlands EU

Commento di Thottbot

Dropped after about 35 kills, on a mob I'd forgotten to loot and I'd ran off to kill some other bowman, cam back to find this solo corpse that I hadn't looted yet, and voila, one schematic.

Also my engineering skill was ONLY 240. I'd recently respecced from alchemy after the potion nerf. So you don't need master training.

Commento di Thottbot

FINNALLY....i found the schematic after about 3hrs of farming SUNFURY BOWMEN for it..This will indeed help me get my engeenering up to 375 .

maskev
sentinels..server

soon ill be making the gyro balenced khorium launcher....

Commento di Thottbot

WTB: Schmatic that helps us find other schematics... or does that make too much sense?

Commento di Thottbot

3 days, 14 arcane tomes, 119 signets, over 200 cloth. I had 2 more kills left before I was officially giving up, and then it dropped. 2nd from top on cosmo side. Don't give up!

Commento di Thottbot

Been farming this for 4 hours now, killed over 300 of them, 8 arcane tomes, 9 stacks of cloth, over 100 signets 11 greens and 10 healing pots later, no schematic, so goodluck to anyone who tries to farm this, I'm also hoping posting here might change my luck, guess we'll see :)

Commento di Thottbot

Gonna try the tried and true method of whining on the thottbot message boards to make the schematic appear... worked for me before, CMON THOTTBOT WIZARDS! 150 KILLS ISNT ENOUGH?
gimme :P

EDIT: 61 kills later...... got it...... THOTTBOTT WIZARDS YOU ARE SLACKING OFF!

Commento di Thottbot

gah - thottbot luck rub off on me! 4 hours and no drop yet :\

Commento di Thottbot

NINE hours 14 minutes of constant farming, untold number of kills, 347 Sunfury Signets, 11 Arcane Tomes.... 1 .

*Sigh*

Commento di Thottbot

hoping the thottbot gods can help ease the farming pain...lol

Commento di Thottbot

Ive farmed mobs for this chematic for atleast 12 hours now and ive made 1347 kills... sure i get loads of money but i came for the schematic :/

Woohoo, 60 kills later got it :D

Commento di Thottbot

So far 75 kills no scope... 360 engineer exactly

Edit: After roughly 40 more kills i got one. Definitely drops from the Bowman

Commento di Thottbot

32 kills on a really slow computer so it took me like 30 mins
14 signets

Commento di Thottbot

Went farming for it on my Priest today. 360 engineering got it on 8th kill.

Commento di Thottbot

Ridiculous. Grinding hundreds, and still jack diddly. Getting extremely bored of grinding day by day -.- I just want the damn schmematic...

Commento di Thottbot

Well I have been farming for this for probably 10+ hours with no drop, a lot of signets and tomes though, as well as a helping of greens, I just rotate around all of the groups, who don't respawn fast enough (hunter in 2/3 epics on epic mount). I wish it would drop, but I don't mind so much since I am making decent gold. Just hoping the "thottbot buff" will work for me :)

Edit: IT WORKS! No more than 2 hours of farming later, the same day and it drops! Never give up never surrender!

Commento di Thottbot

Got mine after 2 kills!

Commento di Thottbot

All I got to say is WOW!

Commento di Thottbot

Been trying to get this for a while now.. hope the "Thottbot Gods" will help me :)

Commento di Thottbot

Been farming all morning.....no drop. Please Thottbot, grant me thy buff of loot dropage.

Commento di Thottbot

at least 400 kills
5 days of farming
and now i'm doing the whining to the almighty thottbot message forum to get the pat to drop

Mostly so the thottbot gods will take pity on me and drop the pat

Commento di Thottbot

The non-existent thottbot gods did not take pity *sigh*

Commento di Thottbot

got this after killing 47 of the bowmen, i'm a level 70 hunter and i just went and circuited the whole place

Commento di Thottbot

WOOT 526 kills later and 2 weeks later! also begging the non-existent thottbot forum gods =p

Commento di Thottbot

The thottbot forum gods DO exist, and they don't like you.

Commento di Thottbot

Well, I guess I'm going pagan too...413 Kills, loads of cloth, 1 blue, not much green, decent cash=Zero Schematic

Seems to me that a pattern that could be made just higher trade skill trainable requiring this much grind/farming is just more of the same.

Trades got jacked up in Burning Crusade...Too much rep/grind, and then the items created are almost all trade skill req to equip. I know it stinks, but I'd almost rather buy a schematic than waste this much time.

On a counterpoint, I do like the tradeskill/BoP drop idea, it does alleviate farming exploitation in the AH, but the drop rate should be a lil more friendly.

Used to be bad enough with engineering, lol now its all of them. It seems as though if you have alts, forget getting a majority or a decent amount of the good recipes.

Please Be Kind Thotbot Gods

Commento di Thottbot

Thottbot god, i need one

Commento di Thottbot

Thottbot gods : thx you so much! got it after 1 hour farming

Commento di Thottbot

I've been grinding the Sunfury Bowmen for about 4 hours nonstop. I'm 361 engineering. Won't drop :( plus im a holy/disc priest making this annoying.

Emo. Gief thottbot buff plx.

Commento di Thottbot

Lol... bliz must have upped the drop rate, i got mine on first kill after i realized it was bowmen not archers

Commento di Thottbot

746 kills.
Got 383 signets, 13 arcane tomes, 1200+ netherweave cloth...
My god, that was the worst thing I've ever, ever done. I will flaunt this thing like a badge of honor...or stupidity.

Commento di Thottbot

Dropped while I was doing my daily for the Shattered Sun Assault, didn't take more than 10 kills and there it was. Either they changed something, or I just got lucky. I Flew around and picked off the Sunfury Bowman at Manaforge Duro, they're the ones that seem to drop it.

Commento di Thottbot

For those of us Hunter Engineers, which there are alot, this is a great time to lvl that lowbie pet you've been meaning to. Dont have to bring these guys in close, drop fast, and pet will lvl. Kinda a long boring trip but at least it's killing 2 birds with one stone.

Commento di Thottbot

hoping the Thottbott Buff will proc for me too...roughly 5 hours of farming thus far and no scope...

Commento di Crieve

Confirmed available Phase 1 of TBC Classic by Jazeus-Atiesh <All The Things>.

Commento di Sknilegap

This is definitely in game even though it doesn't feel like it... I see some on my server's AH. Killed over 120 no schematic drop... its a rough one with so few spawns. And the spawns are objectives of a quest too....

Commento di Tantz

I had to kill 405 Bowman to get it.

Commento di Skult

Ok, I decided to farm and in 02h 07min I dropped it.

x98 Sunfury Bowman
x137 Netherweave Cloth
x49 Sunfury Signet
x1 Boneshredder Belt
x1 Astralaan Pants
x1 Arcane Tome
x1 Schematic: Khorium Scope

You really need to have a little patience, farm it is boring, you kill a little and you have to fly somewhere else, not counting the other adds that bother you along the way.