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Commento di mohhomad

It says "reduce the target's melee, ranged, and casting speed." when you reduce speed you are going slower, not faster.

Commento di arco

This might not be a bad enchant for PvP. If for example you put this on two daggers for a mutilate rogue, and the proc rate is as high as fiery was, you'd be putting out a nice chunk of additional damage. Add that to the on-hit effect, and this might be a good anti-caster enchant.

Then again, fiery said it "often" procced in the effect description, whereas this says it "occasionally" procs. So I would assume, if they put those words in on purpose, that the proc rate on this is lower.

Commento di 72012

No. You're not reading the text:

and reduce the target's melee, ranged, and casting speed

Notice that it says, "reduce(s)...speed." This means that they cast or attack SLOWER. When you reduce the speed in your car it takes you longer to get between two points, right?

It does NOT say "reduce the target's melee, ranged, and casting time." THAT would be bad.

Commento di Tamarzan

Can confirm that it drops in normal. Just got it in normal mode.

Commento di Eliminati

This is NOT useless in PvE, lmao. This is a freaking Thunderfury on steroids. If it works on raid bosses, nary a raid will go w/o at least two people with it, preferably some OH melee dps. Thats basically a 15% debuff on the dps of a boss, plus the mechanics of allowing more time between whatever it is nasty that they may do. Amazing chant, cheap mats, totally epic.

Commento di 127155

Well Guys, It has been confirmed that, this enchant DOES work on raid bosses and it STACKS with the THUNDERFURY buff(Tried Kara and SSC). Insane enchant for raids, but pvp proc rate( at least on 1.5 speed offhands) is not as high as expected.

Anyway, a good enchant for all players and it's fun.

Commento di redandgray

This enchant requires a level 60 or higher item.

Commento di 113336

This is not meant to up your personal dps. It is one person lowering their dps for the sake of the raid. A reduction of 15% dmg from any boss for 8 sec every 20 sec is EXCELLENT.

Commento di Elmarion

The attack speed reduction of this enchant does not stack with Thunderclap. The two debuffs can be applied at the same time, but this is purely because they aren't actually the same effect, they are merely overlapping. You will see both at the same time because of the reduced casting and ranged speed, but the attack speed reduction is still just 20%.

Commento di 165406

There is no hidden cooldown on the proc, tested it and it actualy refreshed itself. However the pvp proc rate is rather low.

Commento di 165438

I tested this out with a ret pally buddy over the course of a few duals. Here the results:

60 Melee Swings
19 Spell Attacks
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79 Attacks Total

Procced 10 times over the course of 79 attacks, roughly ~8% proc rate.

There is no internal cooldown as Deathfrost refreshed on me on 3 occasions.

Did not test for PPM; was stated around 4 in an earlier post.

I'd assume around a 10% proc rate, but here is the hard data.

Commento di 54076

It procs off of goblin rocket launcher.

Commento di 135665

Deathfrost procs fairly frequently (around 10%) and seems to be affected by spell crit. It also counts as a harmful spell, and procs https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34678.

It drops in Slave Pens, both normal and heroic, during the Midsummer Fire Festival, from a summoned boss.

Commento di Folmer

Well i did some short testing yesterday too see if it would replace, or would get replaced by the Thunderfury effect and/or Mind-numbing Poison III...

The result was that all of the debuffs were attached to the mobs, no matter what order they were applied...

http://www.msoee.dk/tf.jpg <--- A simple example of it...

Commento di 66090

Im actually kind of convinced this procs off of Consecration and Holy shield procs. Im doing Shattered Halls Heroic as we speak and on certain aoe packs I wound target someone and already have deathfrost on them.. more than one of them. Strange, ill have to test this more to be sure.

Commento di 145561

your current post/info is useless.

It's nice to know people on wowhead really care. :)

Commento di 147777

Testing this out on my mage

It does proc off Frost Nova but it doesnt gain much from spell dmg or attack power boost and AOE, not sure if it hits all enemy struck by the AOE, but probably not. Not sure if it procs on channelled spell

it seems to remain at about 150-160 frost damage

It does proc off of any damage effect. This includes but not limited to:

-Lightning Incapcitator (it also charges when crit and eats up the charges
-Scryer bonus on all Shattered Sun Necklace
-Darkmoon Deck: Vengence
-Thunderclap

It does not, proc off dot ticks.

Still need to test:

-Thorns

IMHO, this enchant does replace fiery as a decent leveling enchant pass 50.

Not so sure if this affect frost immune mobs (at least the debuff) the damage I am sure frost-immune mobs arent affected by it

Hopefully I can test it out on my boomkin today.

averages out about 1/3 spell cast or 3/5 melee so far (this is tested on a caster and a rogue)

Commento di Atraira

IMPORTANT NEWS FOR MANY PEOPLE:

I have now tested it with Thunderfury in a duel, it's just like Thunderclap: the buffs stack, but the effects do not.

Base: 1.8 Attack Speed
Deathfrost: 2.07 Attack Speed
Thunderfury: 2.16 Attack Speed
Thunderfury + Deathfrost: 2.16 Attack Speed

Commento di 165752

does this proc off of affliction spells? like when the spell is already on the target?

Commento di 68102_

This enchant DOES NOT STACK with Imp TC. However it does overwrite the effects of 2/3 or lower imp TC. Having this enchant is still GREAT for rogues, fury warrs & enh shammys especially for raiding without a warrior or one without the 3/3 imp tc. I have an enh shammy w/ my MH chanted w/ executioner & OH w/ mongoose. On boss fights without that imp tc, thru macro, I simply switch my MH for PVP 1h w/ Deathfrost, wait for a proc & switch my original MH back again.

It's a little tedious for some especially with watching that 8sec proc timer, but it adds to my value bringing more than dps, windfury & bloodlust. Using it is a bonus & I wouldn't recommend sacrificing the leet deeps for it, but when u have a tank with "iffy" survivability it wouldn't hurt having this & giving urself a little xtra responsibility.

Oh & how it sez "occasionaly" on the proc? You'll be pleasantly surprised how "occasionally" it does.

Commento di 165220

it's been confirmed already that it doesnt proc off Consecration. Holy shield, I don't know about.

Commento di 165220

Good for raiding, bad for raiding, try it yourself if your weapons arent already enchanted. The mats on this are CHEAP so if you can't afford mongoose or executioner, pick this up instead. If you already have dual mongoose, then don't replace that 600g enchant with this... go find a different weapon to slap it on or wait for more conclusive answers.

The droprate on this pattern doesnt seem too fantastic. I heard somewhere that it's a 100% drop off heroic... can anyone confirm or deny this? I've killed him twice on reg and no drop, looks like the guys above me have the same problem.

EDIT: After my 6th kill on reg with no pattern, I managed to wheedle/bribe my group into trying heroic. It dropped, I paid the two enchanters large quantities of money to pass to me, and I got the pattern.

For the curious, heroic is pretty much identical to regular. The one big difference is that the boss himself has much more HP, and while we consistently killed him on the 3rd Core phase in all my reg groups, it took us till the 4th Core phase in the heroic group. This means endurance, endurance, endurance!

Good luck~~

Commento di OmegaDeath

I doubt that it has a 100% drop on heroic, I only ran it twice, with my summon and another players, it dropped on the second kill, i was the only enchanter. So i guess i was really lucky :D

Commento di 158869

It has a very low proc rate in pvp indeed.
And I wouldn't say it lower your dps that much. Remember it deals 150 frost damage every time...

Commento di 164384

While i have yet to test it out in pvp, dual wielding it with my pvp swords doing dailies, I was proccing this constantly just with the little melee I was doing while kiting. Obviously if the proc rate holds anything like in pve, then even for hunters it's at least a *decent* enchant if you're dual wielding (although serious arena hunters that are dual wielding are putting 30 int on for a damn good reason)

Oh and dropped for me on regular, after about 13 runs. Every heroic i've done with him has dropped it (4 runs so far)

Commento di 46440

It appears that the intention was to provide a debuff similar to thunder clap for ranged/caster enemies. Since the debuff will sit along side thunder clap, the raid will need to decide if the debuff slot used by deathfrost is worth it. I would think that the 15% slowdown between cast/range attacks would more than make up for the lost debuf slot. Further, improved thunder clap is usually taken by most nontard MT so this along with improved thunder clap is quite useful to the raid as a whole.

tl;dr: Deathfrost appears to be designed to sit right next to Improved Thunder Clap on the debuff table for BOSS's

Commento di 113336

Dropped for me on my first Normal try, no other enchanters. =D

Commento di BlackWvyern

What interests me most is the fact that people are mainly only considering this spell's effectiveness in a setting where Thunderclap is present, and completely leaving out the fact that this enchant is invaluable to Paladin and Druid tanks who don't have the attack speed reduction. Paladins probably won't take this enchant often, due to sources that are better for threat like Executioner, and Druids will not be able to take the proc in bear form, so it's left to a DPS in the raid to take the spell. I currently have it on my warlock and balance druid, and have noticed that it procs at least once per monster in the encounter, and typically five to six times during boss fights. I don't have any numbers to back it up, but the fact remains that the enchant will greatly increase a Paladin and Druid's tanking effectiveness.

Commento di 147777

Okay, my friend tested out on his rogue

the spell does refreshes itself

and it does work on ALL non frost immune bosses

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Okay, now for my testing

I have tested it on moonkin (look up noctune from Lightning's Blade) and it does proc at least once per mob i went against and it does crit based off your spell crit.

Also tested it on mage and last night, a poor rogue died to deathfrost procs off both Frost Nova and Fire Blast..... It does get some spell dmg boost since my mage hits 160+ damage with it but my druid hits for about 150..... could be boosted by talents only.....

This isn't the best enchant in the world but it's a nice enchant to have on a weapon

It's probably best for proc pally, ret pally, enh shammie, rogues without executioner and mongoose.

To answer the affliction lock question: Yes it does proc of curses, but only on the initial cast, not the dot damage. However, it doesn't mean it sucks. If you don't wanna get the spell dmg one or the soulfrost, I will suggest this as an alternative

Need confirmation to see if it procs on channel spells

so far, it has been confirm that it can proc off the SSO necks.

Commento di isawakumo

Just as an FYI, this debuff STACKS with both Thunderfury debuffs, making it a doubly good tanking enchant :)

Commento di 167469

I enchanted this on a dps warrior (decapitator) before we went to karazhan who said that it added about 1% dmg to his output. He also noticed that it wasn't much of a graphic, or that the decapitator graphic overshadowed it.

Commento di 117595

Does this "additional 150 frost damage" stack with frost mage's Arctic Winds / Piercing Ice and does it apply Winter's Chill? If so, this enchant would be so pwn.

Commento di Nerobyrne

Well i got this for my mage as soon as i could, because it is so far the ONLY enchant which causes your spells to proc aditional damage. Now mages and warlocks finally have something on their weapons that can hurt people.

Okay, there was spell damage before, but i find that this is better. I guess it's comparable to +atk power VS fiery ench for melee classes, it really matters what your personal preference is. Being an arcane mage, the debuff doesn't really do it for me since i can Slow anyway, but i loved the part about my spells having a 10% chance to do more damage!

PS: Just in case anyone is wondering, this will NOT proc frostbite because
A: It's not a mage spell
B: It slows, but it does not slow movement, and is thus not a chill effect.

Commento di Vesanius

Does anyone know if this procc off from mage's Molten Armor as well?
If it does, this might be a really nice enchant for pvp with 0/17/44 spec since every time someone hit you by melee, ranged or spell attack there's a 10 % chance to stun that player for 2 seconds and beside that there would be a chance to increase their attacking/casting speed by 15 % for 8 seconds.

At least Impact's tooltip says "Gives Your fire spells a 2 % chance to stun the target for 2 sec." so Molten Armor damage is counted as your own spell since it can procc impact. And since it's counted as your own offensive spell it should be possible to procc Deathfrost as well.

So has anyone tried it yet?

Commento di 168077

i've seen come mentions, but no full out answers, does this, or does this not, drop if you can not use it, but are still an enchanter?

also, if anyone has checked, does it proc off thorns? i saw someone ask about that with no response.

Commento di 147874

It really depends on the way you look at it. You are lessenning SPEED. This means you make is SLOWER. The same applies if you lessened SLOWNESS, you would make is faster (is slowness a word?). If you consider speed the amount of time it takes to cast a spell then you would obviously see this enchant as working properly.

Commento di 167018

Anyways, for a rogue using IP/DP,
wouldn't D-W these be like 2 more IPs?

how does it compare to exec/mongoose or 20agil/mongoose?

Commento di Kapitan

Do you have to be an enchanter to see this drop and roll for it, or does the whole party have a chance at this?

Commento di 112723

Hello everyone...
Just had a debate on trade channel about this... I would like to point out:

"...enchant a weapon so your DAMAGING SPELLS and melee weapon hits occasionally..."

everyone says that its useless if you have a warrior or a lock in your group. I could care less cause im a prot pally, so I dont group with many warriors. I tend to group with a ret pally alot (2 blessings, and sanctity aura makes holding threat a dream). Aside from losing the 40 spellpower on my weapon, would this be worth it?

One word.... Consecration (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=27173)

now do you see the angle I am working on here? Im collecting motes, I will post back with the results. Any thoughts?

Commento di 37075

Deathfrost will not stack with a Warrior's Thunderclap if anyone is wondering. ^.^

Commento di drphillgood

Once I hit lvl 60 and went to outlands I grabbed two Grunts waraxes and put this on them. This helps out with lvling and killing those players that are an annoyance. The mats really aren't bad at all. You can get the shadows out in Hellfire and the water right outside Shat. Happy killing :D

Commento di 16951

If TC does not stack with the speed reduction, does that also mean attack speed reduction also does not stack with ice armor debuff?

And do Mage talents synergize with the damage bonus? I doubted Ice Shards, Piercing Ice and Arctic Winds synergize, but will Winter's Chill help it crit more?

And does spell cast speed reduction stack with curse of tongues?

Commento di olss0nftw

Is it only applyed from DD or can it proc from debuffing a target to?

Commento di 169435

Does this proc off of instant poison?

Commento di 149612

I would guess that this enchant will be in a huge demand by leveling Death Knights.

Commento di Royi

Its the same as the Icey enchant

with an additional + 150 frost damage.

Commento di 48935

I did some short testing today. Going to continue and edit my post.
This is on a protection paladin smacking mobs around in terrokar forest.
DPS is derived from finding the average damage based on character spell crit rate.

Auto Attack:
13 procs from 154 swings.
Proc/Swing: 8.4415584%
Proc/Min: 2.665755297
DPS: 6.846659262

Seal of the Crusader:
13 procs from 163 swings.
Proc/Swing: 7.9754601%
Proc/Min: 3.518585348
DPS: 9.037046644

Seal of Righteousness:
11 procs from 82 swings
Proc/Swing: 13.4146341%
Proc/Min: 4.236200257
DPS: 10.88015083

So, for tanking paladins, stick with 40 spell damage. As, according to Elitist Jerks (1), each point of spell damage equates to approximately 0.5 threat per second, thus creating 20 TPS, whereas Deathfrost w/ Seal of Righteousness generates ~ 10 dps.
Also keep in mind that slower attack speeds on your target result in lower threat generation from Retribution Aura and Holy Shield. Logically a ~15% threat decrease on that target.
Previous testing shows that Deathfrost does not proc off of Consecrate, Holy Shield, or Retribution Aura. though it would appear that Seal of Righteousness can, indeed, proc Deathfrost. Evidence: Proc rate is nearly doubled using Seal of Righteousness.
Another interesting note: Unlike most weapon enchants, the data supports that Deathfrost is a flat proc rate rather than a proc/minute. Shown by the same number of procs using seal of the crusader. Evidence: (SotC: proc/min) divided by (AutoAttack: proc/min) ~= ratio of SotC attack speed to auto attack speed.

Is this available on TBC Classic?

Commento di Hopesedge

Deathfrost now drops as of P5, just had it drop myself in my first heroic run.

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Formula: Enchant Weapon - Deathfrost

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Usa: Learn how to permanently enchant a weapon so your damaging spells and melee weapon hits occasionally inflict an additional 150 Frost damage and reduce the target's melee, ranged, and casting speed by 15% for 8 sec.
Permanently enchant a weapon so your damaging spells and melee weapon hits occasionally inflict an additional 150 Frost damage and reduce the target's melee, ranged, and casting speed by 15% for 8 sec. Requires a level 60 or higher item.

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