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Commento di 6769

This awesome consumable has been changed (nerfed).

Not too sure if it's implemented in patch 2.0 already, but it will restore less energy: 60 energy at lvl 60 and scaling down to ultimately restore 40 energy at level 70.
(This is taken from second hand testing)

Commento di DaWanderer

nerfed, nerfed, nerfed.

Commento di 43040

This is absolutely the most worthless thing given to rogues now.

Unlike mana which increases its maximum points with level; energy does not increase. 100 energy throughout the life of the character.

Mana potions give set amounts of Mana regardless of character level. Thistle Tea degrades with character level.

With Thistle Tea and Mana potions having cool down timers (except for Enchanted Water which does not), the 3 minute cool down timer for Thistle Tea - regardless of your level - increases the uselessness of this consumable for Rogues.

It becomes more evident to you when you initiate combat with a special move, and that special move "misses", granting the rogue no damage to the enemy and no combo points either. You must now work your way up to a combo point level where you may do some good damage. Once at that level, you must now wait for your energy to rise before using your attack talent or use the Thistle Tea.

At that point, should your attack talent only do minimum damage (which is possible) you must again work your combo points up, and then wait for your energy to be at the attack talents requirement.

At this point, you have been pummeled from the combat, and realize you still have 2.5 minutes before you can use another Thistle Tea. As you progress your character in levels, the reduced amount of energy given by the Thistle Tea after level 40, creates another barrier for a functional use.

Having a rogue (IMHO) specializing in other than Combat, can increase the uselessness of this Thistle Tea. More-so should you choose to be a Dagger Rogue. With daggers giving less damage than most swords.

I myself am a Subtlety Spec Duel Dagger Rogue.

Please note, that with this comment, I did not include the use of rogue poisons. Reason for that is not every creature encountered is affected by poisons and are "IMMUNE" (whether the poison be movement impairing or extra damage). As such, I cannot find myself to include poisons as a viable inclusion for the use of Thistle Tea.

~Lie

Commento di rokman500

ROFL 5 min cooldown on only 40 energy?

God i hate nerfs.

Commento di Urbanmech

That's silly how they nerfed that. I dont know why they did...

Commento di 17624

Even WITH the nerf, it's still of moderate use, although there are other options that (IIRC) share the same cooldown that may be of more interest these days.

Commento di AuReacT

Shares cooldown with healthstones

Commento di daurenr

Good in combo with Arcane Torrent even at 70s can be quite devastating

Commento di apes2gogo

This does not give a global coodlown!! ^^ so it's pew pew pew!

Commento di 104074

the marking on the cup says "2%" lol

Commento di 129663

can i use these in battle?

Commento di Thottbot

While the druid Cat form does use energy a druid cannot use potions, food, drink while in animal form. So no, a druid in cat form cannot use it. FYI, a druid in Bear form cannot use a rage potion either.

Commento di Thottbot

its easy, make a new rogue and give it to your old one =P

Commento di Thottbot

Word on the street is that the recipe will be available eventually at a vendor in Ravenholdt Manor (that secret rogue place in Hillsbrad).

I wonder if they'll just anyone buy the recipe, or can you buy as many as you want and let your guild cooks have it?

Curently any class can learn the recipe.

Commento di Thottbot

u can buy the recipie of a guy in the manor in hilsbrad foothills... he is down in the cellar

Commento di Thottbot

Is there any way for a non-Rogue to get this recipe? I have heard a few people say they have done it a certain way, but they won't say how.

I've tried going to Kendor Kabonka in Stormwind city because I've seen many website say that he has the recipe, but he doesn't.

Is it possible to make a Rogue and go to the Ravenholdt Manor and buy the recipe and then trade it to my main character?

Any tips or information regarding how to obtain it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Commento di Thottbot

I'm on the Horde side so I'll be speaking on behalf of the Horde. Go to the Dornhold keep. collect those patches the humaniods are wearing. If you're a rogue it helps to use pickpocket. btw, this place is also great for lockpicking. anyway...the idea is to collect about 30 patches. Once you've done that head towards Ravenhold manor which is directly north of the keep and slightly west. speak with one of the soldiers and give him the patches. At that time you should be honored. You will then be able to obtain thistle tea recipe in the basement.

Yes...this can be used in combat. Yes, this is a very hot selling product for those who have the recipe. The recipe itself from Ravenholt is soulbound. The tea gives energy not mana. It's probably best to just look in AH for it.

Commento di Thottbot

its a quest reward for the rogue poison quest so its souldbound. it can be bought from a vendor in hillsbrad, but only rogues are able to buy it from him. only rogues can use the actual tea.

Commento di Thottbot

Guys you can purchace at Ravenholdt no matter what faction you are, im horde and walked in and bought it for 2 silver...not hard..you all are "special"

Commento di Thottbot

This tea gives 2 energy points less after each level over 40.

pie

Commento di Thottbot

Yeah, totally nerfed. I think it's Blizzard's intention to absolutely rip the piss out of rogues.

Commento di Thottbot

For everyone wondering, I'm pretty sure the recipe is just invisible, in the merchant's item list, to all but the Rogue class. We've seen this functionality elsewhere: the level 60 PVP armor vendor in each faction's respective officer lounge.

No camping required, no sharing allowed. You've gotta be a rogue and you've gotta buy it with that character -- if you happen to somehow end up without the recipe from the quest.

I am not 100% sure of this.

edit: I somehow missed tides' comment from one year ago. Anyway, I believe he's correct.

Commento di Thottbot

meh...brewed up a stack yesterday...went without it for so long, it seems a shame to start using it now, because I'll get used to it, then dependent, and then when I have none, I'll be screwed...plus I haven't had practice at effectively using it...oh well

Commento di Thottbot

you can either get it from quest or get the recipe from rogue place in Hillsbrad

Commento di Thottbot

I am a UD 18 rogue trying to buy the Thistle tea recipe, and after camping the Ravenholdt vendor in the basement, I am starting to think he will not sell it to me since 1) I have not compeleted the questline for it, and 2) I am too low for the questline which give the recipe as an reward in the frist place.

Wanted this tea for my twinked rogue, but guess I will just have buy it from the AH if possible.

Also, since I am horde, I am having an Alli toon buy Minor Recombobulator plans from the Alli vendors and placing it on BB or Tanaris AH, so I can buy and make. :)

Commento di Thottbot

has anyone else noticed that there is-> 2% on the side of its icon?

Commento di Thottbot

DUDE READ THE ABOVE COMMENTS!
u need to be a lv20+ rogue to get the recepie!-_-

Commento di Thottbot

Is starts restoring 100% energy, but it get less when you get more level. Thats why at some people are saying "it only restores 40 energy now". For me, it stills restores 60 energy (I am lvl 61). I think the 2% which is drawn on its sprite has something with this, like 2% per some levels, etc.

EDITED: Now I have seen, thats it, look the formula: Use: Instantly restores (100-2*max(0,PL+) energy.

Commento di Allakhazam

It has a cooldown of 5minutes

Commento di Allakhazam

what lv of cooking do you need to get this?

Commento di Allakhazam

(\/)(\/)
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crab hands

Edited, May 8th 2007 3:44pm by mccrea

Commento di Allakhazam

nog roges or rouge damnit

Commento di Allakhazam

rouges can stealth drink and steath drink just FYI i just found out by experimenting ahha hope it helps =p =p =p =p =p =p =p =p =p =p

HORDE FTW! HuZzAh!NOBODY lives 4ever that is my WSG warcry

Commento di Allakhazam

So which players use Energy that would benefit from this product?

Commento di Allakhazam

Selling this on Warsong server. Pst Tinrack for prices and details. HAVE ALOT!

Commento di Allakhazam

For all you out there is ROGUE not Rouge not roges and by the way Rouge is FRENCH for RED

Commento di Allakhazam

I am pretty sure that the cooldown is 2 minutes, but unlike mana potions it doesn't share a timer with healing potions so you can burn a healing potion then an energy potion and rule your target. :-)

Commento di Allakhazam

not roges rouges, tnx

and yes for rogue only, if you lost the recip you can buy it at that ''secret'' hold in the mountains of hillsbrad to the north east

Commento di Allakhazam

what lv of cooking do you need to get this?

Commento di Allakhazam

They totally screwed this one in one of the patches. Instead of restoring 100 energy, it seems to only do 52 energy on my level 64 rogue. :-(

Edited, Feb 18th 2007 1:27am by WhitePhantom

Commento di Allakhazam

once you use this, does it have a cooldown?

Commento di Allakhazam

what lv of cooking do you need to get this?

Commento di Allakhazam

Ahh thistle tea ... Rogues best friend

Commento di Allakhazam

I think it has a 3 minute cooldown. So it's not something you can just spam, but it can get you out of a tight spot. If you keep plenty with you and just treat it as an ability (as far as cooldown is concerned) it works well. As a rogue, when you do 4 backstabs in 2 seconds or so it can be very nice :)

Edited, Thu Aug 18 07:47:28 2005

Commento di Allakhazam

where can one get this recipie? can you give a coordinate?

Commento di Allakhazam

(\/)(\/)
_\\_//_
crab hands

Edited, May 8th 2007 3:43pm by mccrea

Commento di Allakhazam

Use: Instantly restores energy
FOR LEVEL 40 AND UNDER (O,40-40)= 0 100-200*0 =100-0 =100 ENERGY
FOR LEVEL 64 (0,40-64)=-0,24 100-200*0,24=100-48= 52 ENERGY
FOR LEVEL 70 (0,40-70)=-0,3 100-200*0,3 =100-60= 40 ENERGY

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Usa: Instantly restores [100 - 2 * max(0, Level - 40)] energy. (5 Min Recupero)

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