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Commento di 6101

As a druid, this ability will be incredible to say the least. (think divine shield, only without a cooldown) it's worth noting that only one target can be cycloned at a time--however, considering we can entangle roots and hibernate as well...hunters beware ^^

Commento di StoneLegion

After using this on a pvp target more then 2-3 times would not work again till you left and came back into combat. Its an ok skill its only 6 seconds. Personally I would use it just for pvp reasons. But good for pve but theres better uses for a druid in mc :)

Commento di Archangel

This spell will suffer diminishing returns. For instance;
-the first time it is used, it will last 6 seconds.
-the second time, it will last 3 seconds.
-the third time, it will last 1.5 seconds.
-the fourth time, the enemy will become immune to the spell until it's diminishing timer is reset, which is 15 seconds(thanks sillyllama!)
It is certainly useful, but you cannot "spam" it, per se =)

Other notes;
-The only method of dispelling it is by using the PvP trinket. Even Mass Dispel or a Paladins Divine Shield/Mages Ice Block cannot remove it.
-Casting spells on a Cycloned target will use mana! It will not return "Invalid Target" error, rather make the target immune to already cast spells, in effect wasting all energy used on said target.
-While Auras such as Paladin Auras, Hunters Trueshot Aura, and Draenei +(spell)hit Auras are deactivated for the duration of the spell, hence disallowing them to buff party members, the aruas are immediately reactivated when Cyclone fades.

Commento di Fwaky

This skill can save a druid more than once, as it has saved me a lot of times. Making me able to heal without getting damaged. Really nice to have in case of a emergency.

Commento di 4966

This spell can come into use in more ways than one, the most obvious being cyclone, heal. It can, however, also be used as a form of pvp CC being as the fact that diminishing returns reset once you leave combat, and in order to leave combat in pvp, all you have to do is take no action for a small period of time (I think it is in the area close to 6 seconds, ironically; correct me if I am wrong). It also has great potential for resto druids with NS, as an instant interrupt, and "Hey, you cant do anything for 6 seconds" spell. the short term banish usable on everyone. Amazing ability, great potential.

Commento di tweek

In case you're wondering, Ice Block and Blink do *not* counter this. It's likely other CC-escaping defense mechanisms similarly cannot counter this.

Also, damage will not break the effect, unlike Polymorph / Sap.

It should go without saying that this is the spell you absolutely must save Counterspell for in duels / PvP, or you will lose automatically. Alternatively, this should be every PvP druid's backup spell for when they need to heal and their healing tree is locked out - you wait off most or all of the resto lockout and are able to bandage (assuming FA).

Commento di Paps

Can anyone confirm if this can be countered by Divine Shield?

Commento di Fogh

Good spell to use when your healing, just use it on a mob if its a attacking you.

Commento di shamyramy

This not only makes your target unable to do anything and immune to damage, but it also makes it immune to heals.

If something is low on health in Arenas and you see that healer winding up a big heal, it might be wise to Cyclone the target so they waste mana and casting time.

Commento di 59953

Got a huge nerff in 2.1.2 as it's now removable via pvp trinket

Commento di EvilElpay

Wow, I just noticed this spell did get a big nerf. I can't confirm this is true but by looking at the above poster and looking at the new trinkets from pvp I can see where the potential problem is.

I notice that the effect 1 is stun and effect 2 is invulnerability. As a druid I want to use pounce, maim, and cyclone so I can make a feeble attempt to stunlock or atleast restealth. Unfortunately with mages able to blink out of stun and all other classes with trinkets that break stun I am afraid that I will not be able to use this strategy any more.
If this is the case than why would I spend the time for a 6 second cast that will be broken instantly, then recast for 3 seconds so I can only have enough time for a 3 second cast.
I can not confirm this information by can see the potential conflict. Can someone confirm if this is the case as of the most recent patch? Thank you.

Commento di Darlion

will be changed in 2.2

Cyclone: Paladin Auras, Trueshot Aura, and Aspect of the Pack will now be automatically reactivated when Cyclone wears off of a victim who had one of the abilities active.

Commento di 81639

Clearly the most annoying spell ever in arenas, 110%. Is it dispellable by any class at all? -no- that makes it totally OP imo, should at least have a 30 sec CD if it was to be fair against Mages & Paladins protetion (because this spell IS protection)

Commento di 102630

As a Holy Pally, I can say this spell has caused more team deaths than any other. All I can do is sit and watch while my group is destoyed, and then everything is focused on little ol' me. Plus, if they catch me towards the end of my cast, which is common, I'm essentially out of the game for CC Time + Wasted Casting Time. I've had to sit for ~12 seconds watching the drood who CC'ed me cast a few HoTs, then CC me again, then cast a few more.

Needless to say, I now have a Drood alt.

Commento di 112110

One small thing everyone has failed to notice is this is an excellent way to stop your Mind controlled buddies from taking out the rest of the group in instances. It does no direct damage, like a stun might, and most of the mind controls are short enough that it only needs to be cast once or twice before they are back to normal.

Not everything has to be PVP.

Commento di 68696

Cyclone does need a short cooldown imo.
about 10-15 sec cooldown would be fair

Druids already have amazing survivability in the form of being able to survive melee damage by going bear, and kiting with travel form. A cc is really pushing them too far.

Commento di zapiks44

Personally, I find this spell can sometimes be just as irritating for your own faction as the opposing faction. I can't count the number of times I've been in a BG about to throw an arcane shot, auto shot, then mutli shot at someone, only to have a druid cyclone them just before they hit and see "immune immune immune" pop up over them. Whenever I see this it makes me want to strangle whoever casted it.

So please, druids, use it wisely, otherwise you're just giving the target a free Ice Block.

Commento di 87957

Has anyone tested to see if Mass Dispel removes it?
This may be a stupid question, but since Mass Dispel can remove a paladin bubble or an ice block, could it also remove cyclone?
I can already see why it wouldn't... since cyclone is not a magical buff and such, but I would still like to know if it is possible anyways.

Commento di Jeffa

20 yard range as of the 2.4 PTR

Commento di 42728

also for 2's if your say, druid / warrior or druid / rogue, and theres a warlock on the other team, cyclone the pet and it gets rid of soul-link therefore allowing a extra 20% damage for upto 10.5 seconds which is more than enough time

Commento di 50731

I know that when the target is under the Cyclone effect healing is prevented, but how about mana regen? Not normal MP5 but stuff like innervate and shadow fiend mana?

Commento di Phurox

so when a target is cycloned, other members cannot heal it?

Commento di 163093

Here's what I have to say about cyclone from the point of view of a Healadin.

IT IS STUPIDLY OVERPOWERED.

Now I know that every druid on here is going to contest that, but here's why it's OP....

1 It cannot be removed, except for a pvp trinket. (remember, even the best trinket has a 2 min CD, and that means you can get hit by 4 cyclones, which is more than enough time for a team to get burned down past the point of return.)

2 There is no cooldown, which means that this spell is essentially a FREE INTERRUPT.
*Some of you may say "Look Jive, it's not free it costs 8% (oh noes!) of the caster's base mana." Well guess what, assuming the caster has 10k mana, thats 800 mana. My Heal that he just interrupted cost 840!!!!! which means that this spell is in no way "expensive", as some might suggest.

3 Compared to the pally stun, 6 sec stun, 100 mana, ONE MINUTE CD, and completely removeable, which would you prefer to have? Also, if said druid is a Cow, they have the damn Cow Stomp.... another free interrupt.

4 Many good spells can be wasted when cast at the same time a cyclone is put on someone. I've wasted stuns and BOPs on targets that were cycloned, not due to my own error, but due to the fact that my spell and the druid's cyclone went off at the same time. Again, not fair.

5 When you take into consideration the other abilities provided to a druid (like turning into a kitty at low health, running away, and healing) this is really the straw that breaks the camel's back. Considering that they can now cast rebirth, it's kind of a joke.

6 There are many more points that I could give... but the main idea has been brought accross.

Am I saying that Cyclone should be removed from the game??? NO! Not at all. Here's my proposed solution;
-Minimum cooldown of 30 seconds
-Nerf the mana cost down to 100
-Allow it to be disspelled
-And when Cyclone is applied to a target, it will return "invalid target" messages to the caster should they try and cast a heal/stun on it.

Again, I'm not saying druids are an overpowered class (At least, I'm not saying that directly :)
But this spell has caused more arena and pvp heartache than any other. If I had to pick one thing that this spell need's most, it would be the cooldown though. A minimum of thirty seconds is more than fair. What's not fair is the fact that a druid can completely incapacitate a team's healer for an extended period of time in a way that can only be removed ONCE every two minutes under even the best conditions.

OR blizzard could just allow the classes to be played to their full abilities in Arena, ie Lay on hands, infernals and elementals. It would be a LOT more fun, and more representative of real pvp fighting. Sorry if this came off as a rant, but something really needs to be done here.

-Jive

Commento di 167797

Cyclone can not only be used as CC but as an escape trick when used with natures swiftness. Say you're at 35% with a warrior on you and he's just waiting for you to get out of bear so he can pummel your cyclone or root so you can't get away...pop natures swiftness and instant cyclone him giving you 6 seconds of breathing room rather than instant healing touch which with ms on you which would probably only heal for about 2500-3000ish.

Also, the best way to get a kill in arena from my experience is to cyclone the person that's low(to stop heals. Possibly even make them waste an instant heal.), go bear - feral charge the next heal - bash - cyclone - cyclone and hopefully they're dead by that time. Just make sure that after your first bash or cyclone that you're casting it right after another just in case they use their trinket to get out of one early.

Mana regeneration will continue while under the effects of cyclone but if a Viper sting is on the person in cyclone they will not lose mana from it.

Cyclone is probably the best CC pvp wise for having so much versatility. Whether it be stopping heals, getting rid of a warlocks soul-link for 6 seconds or just as a plain CC/escape tool.

Commento di ytrewq

Handy spell in Alterac Valley of all things. Stealth inside the friendly boss room and when the enemy raid engages, cyclone the tank, preferably after a taunt so its harder to regain aggro. Since mobs stop attacking targets with immunity (pally bubbles, cyclone, etc), this short break tends to cause at least a few deaths and if you're lucky, a wipe.

Commento di 133972

what about the rogue clock of shadow? 90% to resist the spell? from what i kno u cant clock while its up but its can be tracky to see the cast bar and clock if u on a GCD.

Commento di 146485

I would love to see this in WotLK to be able to cast this on yourself or party members :).

Commento di Allakhazam

is this useable with NS?

Commento di Allakhazam

Can this be cast in moonkin form?

Commento di Allakhazam

It doesnt state what we can, or can not use it on. Does this me we can cast it on any type of creep in the game for crowd control?

Commento di Thottbot

does this have diminishing effects?

Commento di Thottbot

Uses:

1.In most cases this spell is for preventing enemyes to cast long and deadly spell
also awesome versus casters...
For example:: cast>>cyclone>> and make timing of you starfire to land just afrer cyclone is over ,then again >>>cyclone ...and repat steps till immune occour

2.Sometime it is useful if you provoke agro and you see no one jump and help you(only helps if you have improved control of nature)

4.You can protect sheeps with this cyclone as well

5.For true crwod control this spell is %^&*,because it have chance to break earlyer than 6sec(tested it) and also you cant re-cyclone till spell is fully expired and even worse i discovered that cycloned mobs always choose to attack you after spell is over(like this spell resets agro as well),then you will regret any attempt of cyclone since mobs in instances will break your nose in 2-3 blows(without healing),this can be well used only if tank is awared of you cycloning wishes but this is imposible to suit in only 6 ses with chances to break earlyer.

Commento di Thottbot

Wait, this spell crowd controls for 6 seconds.
You say it is over powered because other last 12 seconds. Isn't 12 seconds longer than 6? I am not sure I am a noob but I do know that I am finally glad druids get a crowd control for pvp and hopefully they get to use this in my arena team. Crowd control ftw!

Commento di Thottbot

Why do you people add "kkthxbye" to the end of your statements.... You take a perfectly good response/comment and then add "I'm an eleven year old dumbass" at the end of it.

Stop.

Commento di Thottbot

these clases with fear,poly,sap etc etc - cannot heal them selves...
so stop crying - the druid is not weak class at all

Commento di Thottbot

Cyclone is not considered magic. Thus unremovable by priests, shamen, that sort of stuff

Commento di Thottbot

Not needed?

Heh..check the facts..

Fact 1: Increasing resist chance.
Fact 2: Does not always last the specified time.
Fact 3: Our only real CC spell...

The above facts show that while it is a kick arse spell, it is not infallible and is kind of erratic..

Wanna know wrong? Lock's fear...rogue's stunlock...need I go on?

You #$%^& about one of the few decent spells that us druids get, you got ^&*!ing issues.

Commento di Thottbot

no offense, but anyone who says that druids are underpowered need to go back and learn to play the class. this coming from a druid. simply because >YOU< come across a different class that >YOU< can't beat, it doesn't mean the class you are playing with (druid) is underpowered. maybe the player (>you<), but not the class. ;^)

Commento di Thottbot

When a previously easily defeatable class as the Druid becomes pumped up to line with the other classes and finally offers a good challenge:

"OMG HAX NERF DROODS"

This happens. Eleven year olds cry because they have to actually try to beat a Druid. Now that there is challenge, they cry.

As for PvE - everyone likes Druids in raids. However these people are not eleven year olds and they could care less about these forums.

Commento di Thottbot

Lol, druids did deserve that expansion, especially maim and mangle, we needed that so bad. What class wins in an encounter is usually based on who attacks first, ive owned every mage ive attacked first but when they attack me first i have hardly any chance. Rougue's ALWAYS get me when they get first hit but i alwas get them, or get them to run away if i get first hit, and thats mostly because of mangle. Cyclone is an extremly useful spell from what i've seen, ie: a balance's only way to stop u from healing lol. This is good in a 1 v 2 situation. Lets say a caster and a rougue, first focus on caster and kill ASAP then if u have nature's grasp use it, then back to caster and cyclone, then HT plus life bloom ,and into bear. Bear should be able to take care of the rougue from there.

Commento di Thottbot

and by the way, pre-bc, we druid's were considered a healing class and nothing more

Commento di Thottbot

lol, not anymore.

Commento di Thottbot

So many people just dont know how to play druids, although I admit that towards the end game, without excellent gear they aren't very strong...
For example, many druids got straight for HT when they're in trouble. The real way to go about it (assuming you have no lifebloom) is Barkskin, regrowth, rejuv, HT. If you're low on health, drain a health potion to have time for it.
Also, about moonfire spams...They aren't good at all.
I've defeated a lvl 60 druid when i was lvl 50 in pvp because he went moonkin and moonfire spammed while I attacked in cat form...
If you know how to play this class, how to circle and how to use the prowl/pounce effectively, druid can be one of the most powerful classes in the game.

Commento di Thottbot

This spell is a very strong for a Balance Druid. When timed right, it's even better than Fear.

Commento di Thottbot

Is it just me or would this spell be a lot better if you could cast it on allies as well? Leave it exactly the same and make it so you can cast it on partymembers as well and it would be VERY useful. Think of it, as a healer you could use it on a DPS so the tank has more time before he has to get aggro again.

Commento di Thottbot

You CAN trinket out of it.

Commento di Thottbot

I'm a resto druid that runs heroics with a rogue, ele shaman, feral druid and warlock for badges. In heroic mech and SL, we have found that the limited CC time was not really an issue.

Our usual strategy when it comes to large group pulls is as follows... rogue will sap the nearest target, I will cyclone the 2nd nearest, tank will take 3rd, warlock will seduce last one. Any additional adds will be tanked by the feral druid. Once the tank pulls, I will cyclone my mob just as it is about to hit the feral druid so that it will be cycloned right next to him.

If you time it right, you can stack 3 lifeblooms on the tank and then recyclone your mob, giving you 9 seconds of CC. By the time the 9 seconds is up, the 1st mob will be dead and the feral druid would have switched to tank the cycloned target. However, for this tactic to work, you must have a decently geared tank that knows how to generate a ton of aggro. If not, the DPSers will pull and hilarity + QQ will ensue.

On the rare case where the tank's target is not dead by the 9 second mark, I don't bother with the 3rd cyclone. Simply go bear form and run towards the tank (you ARE at 35-40yd range right?). By the time I reach him with the mob behind me, the first target is definitely dead. Of course, this won't work if you're wearing primal mooncloth healing gear because real druids wear leather ;-)

Anyway, something to try your next heroic run.

Commento di Thottbot

for me the Cyclone spell is a game breaker...i mean as a Moonkin i stop mages/shamans/warrior/locks/every class and throw a hot on me PUFF land a Starfire and u suddently u are on 50% health just with a combo of starfire-moonfire... The raw truth is that in pVe just sucks... when u use it the aggro from the tank erases whitch is crucial in heroic etc... so a druid still has no cc but when it comes to save a healer or a target with low survivability it works pretty good .Thanks...

Commento di Thottbot

Druid cc pvp
1. pounce 4sec
2. after 2.5 sec pounce begin cast cyclone
3 after 4.5 sec cyclone begin cast cyclone
4. after 1.5 sec cyclone begin cast cyclone
5. only works if paladin healer or shaman healer feral charge when they begin cast anything
6. when they start cast second spell bash
7. get some combo points when target is bashed then maim
8. get prowl pounce and start over

Commento di Thottbot

http://membres.lycos.fr/dsfc/nerfcyclone.jpg

Commento di Thottbot

Does this spell have an immunity effect like if you cast it too much on a single target? (Sorry if it's a noob question)
Well If it doesn't have immunity then this has got to be the most annoying spell ever!

Commento di Thottbot

if u say this needs a cd fear does aswell

Commento di Thottbot

can someone please post a screenshot, i'd like to see what it looks like.

Commento di Thottbot

Oh, please, don't say Resto Druids aren't overpowered in 2v2 and 3v3. They can completly shut down a Holy Pally or Resto Shaman. It's not cyclone that is overpowered. It's Cat Stun, Cat Incapacitate, Bear Stun and Feral Charge. You say "Go play in 5v5!". Just remember that a 2v2 is far easier to set up until 2200+. A 5v5 requies great teamplay to even reach 2000. But well, this is the price you pay for PvP-ing in a PvE game...

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Cyclone

Cyclone

8% della base mana	Portata di 20 m

1.5 s di lancio

Tosses the enemy target into the air, preventing all action but making them invulnerable for up to 6 sec. Only one target can be affected by your Cyclone at a time.

Beneficio

Dettagli dell'incantesimo

Durata

6 secondi

Scuola

Natura

Meccanica

Esiliato

Tipo di Dissipare

n/d

Categoria GCD

Normale

Costo

8% della base mana

Portata

20 metri (Short)

Tempo di lancio

1.5 secondi

Recupero

n/d

GCD

1.5 secondi

Effetto #1

Apply Aura: Stun
[PVP Multiplier: ]1

Effetto #2

Apply Aura: Immunity (Arcano, Fisico, Fuoco, Gelo, Natura, Ombra, Sacro)
[PVP Multiplier: ]1

Variabili

Non Può Essere Utilizzato Mentre Trasformare
Indipendente da Immunità Scuola
[No Partial Immunity]
[Aura Bounce Fails Spell]
L'aura Può Colpire un solo Obiettivo

Cyclone

Beneficio

Dettagli dell'incantesimo

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