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Commento di MrAnime86

These are confirmed in Beta: Headpiece drops from Pathaleon the Calculator in the Mechanar, a lv 70 wing of Tempest Keep. The Pants and Shoulders drop from Warlord Kalithresh in the Steamvault, a lv 70 wing of Coilfang Reservoir.

Commento di 10597

http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3216
All the info.
PS: Kinda nice set bonuses gives KC something useful instead of just spamming SS.

Commento di 16993

A good Survival hunter worth his salt can take advantage of the 2-set bonus to make their Freezing Traps work as a viable form of crowd control~

Commento di 14899

For a hunter this set gives +4.16% dodge, 135 AP and 16mana/5sec over the desolation set.

I was doing some theory crafting and this is the stats you'll gain taking this set over desolation:

+ 4.16% dodge
+ 135 AP
+ 16 mana / 5 seconds

And the stats you'll lose if you take this set over desolation:

- 0.586% crit
- 260 health
- 378 mana
- 4% chance to hit

If the set bonuses weren't hunter specific id say this is a enhancement shaman set, as a shaman would get nearly double crit % from this set than desolation as shaman get 1 crit % for every 20 agility where hunters need 40 agility. So if a shaman was wearing this the only things they'd lose would be 4% chance to hit, 260 health and 378 mana, while they would gain about 3% crit, 135 AP, 2% dodge and 16 mana/5sec. Is the 4% chance to hit worth all that for a shaman? Because of the set bonuses yes, but if the set bonuses were the same for both desolation and beast lord then i'd take beast lord on my enhance shammy and just get some good +hit rating trinkets/rings to make up for it. But then again i guess you could just make up for the losses (3% crit, 135 AP, 2% dodge and 16 mana/5sec) with trinkets n crap aswell. In which case just go with the set whose set bonuses suit you best and get trinkets to make up the slack, as both sets are pretty similar, with only 1 major difference between them, being dodge %.

Personally ill be going with the desolation set for my hunter. I can always get +AP trinkets to make up for the 135 AP i lose (i dont care about the lose of 4% dodge). But i'd take quite the effort to make up the 64 hit rating, 260 hp, 378 mana if i was to take beast lord.

Commento di 19607

Looking at base stats on both Desolation and Beastlord set and not worrying about which gems you get to slot into the gear, this is what I get:
Calculations are at lvl 70 are:
22 crit rating= 1% crit chance
16 hit rating= 1% hit chance
approx. 47 agi for +1% crit
13 mana per intel

*MM spec includes the talents Combat Experience, Careful Aim, and Master Marksman all completely maxed out.

Desolation: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------w/MM spec*

+1140 Hit Points (1254 w/Survivalist)
+1482 Mana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+1626 Mana (125 int)
+237 AP +160 on chance(397) ------------------------------------------------------------------+323 AP +176(499)
+3.63% chance to crit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------+3.64% crit
+4.0% chance to hit
+0 mana/5sec (29.5 with viper)

Beast Lord: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------w/MM spec*

+880 Hit Points (968 w/ Survivalist)
+1222 Mana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+1295 Mana (100 int)
+335 AP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+421 AP
+2.66% crit chance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+2.71% crit
+0.0% hit chance
+16 mana/5sec (38 with viper)
+600 armor debuff on enemy chance
============================================================================================
In comparison:

Desolation --------------------------------------------------vs. ------------------------------------- Beast Lord
+260 HP (+286 HP w/Survivalist)
+260 MP (+331 MP w/MM Spec)
+62 AP on chance(+178 w/MM Spec) -----------------------------------------------------+98 AP
+.97% crit chance (+.93% w/MM Spec)
+4.0% hit chance
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+16 mana/5sec
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-600 armor debuff chance

Commento di 20755

Who - Where - %

Beast Lord Curiass:
Warp Splinter - The Botanica - 10.3

Beast Lord Handguards:
Warchief Kargath Bladefist - The Shattered Halls - 13.1

Beast Lord Helm:
Pathaleon the Calculator - The Mechanar - 15.7

Beast Lord Leggings:
Warlord Kalithresh - The Steamvault - 11.6

Beast Lord Mantle:
Warlord Kalithresh - The Steamvault - 9.2

Sonic Spear:
Murmur - Shadow Labyrinth - 11.1

Commento di 25470

I'm currently collecting this set for my 41/20 BM Hunter. Not only does it look alot better than previous Hunter sets, I'm a fan of the bonuses on this one.

Can't wait to stick a Swift Skyfire Diamond in that helm. :)

Commento di 25614

Hetfield - unfortunately Swift Skyfire Diamond requires two yellow gems to power it, of which Beast Lord only has capacity for one...shame really. Of course you can get a belt / boots / wrists with the socket, but to make up for the lack of +hit on the set you could try: -

Wild Stalker Boots - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27450

Rigid Dawnstone (for the single yellow socket) - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24051

Bone Chain Necklace - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27779

Ravenclaw Band - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27925

Ring of the Shadow Deeps - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27761

Icon of Unyielding Courage - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28121

Hit those instances folks!

Commento di ezzy

You do know that you can put a gem in a different color socket, but you'll miss out on the socket bonus.

Commento di 29180

So, anyone know of a pair of boots that match this set?
Because I currently have 3/5 of the set and a pair of bright red/orange green quality boots (looks horrible), and am trying to figure out a pair of boots to be trying to get.

Commento di Johan

I'm definately going for this set for my hunter. I'm a BM/MM (42/19) specced hunter and hence, I really find the set bonuses on this set useful since I without it have 30sec cd on traps. But with 26sec cd and 20sec trap duration, I can easily keep 1 mob constantly freezed if I freeze, move and use concussive shot when he breaks free.

As for the boot request by previous poster: I've been wearing my Sky-Hunter Swift Boots (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27915) from Sethekk Halls since level 68, and besides from the nice stats they have, I've also found them to be the best matching boots in terms of looks to go with the Beast Lord set. I have yet to come across better boots after beeing 70 for a while so my guess is that I'll probably be haning on to these for a while.

Commento di 45262

By Siolayani 2 months ago
If your getting Beast Lord, I'd wager your a Hunter (or an opportunistic Shaman), and if your a Hunter your going to want the Sonic Spear (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27903

I've been using Terokk's Quill for a while and I am pretty pleased. https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29329 vs https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27903. It's the same dps and .2 sec faster. It doesn't have the bonus to hit rating or AP, but I think the +Agi makes up for that.

Commento di evein

So, heres my plan..... neither of the sets have a very good 4 piece bonus, but both of the 2 piece bonuses are awesome. so, that leads to: BL chest and legs+deso gloves and shoulders=i think the best set here. alot of ap, +hit, +crit, mana regen and of course the bonuses!

Commento di 46112

Knocking off 600 armor is the same as knocking off ~4% damage reduction.

Commento di Shada

If you're a hunter, you're not going to be taking melee hits all that often, certainly not often enough that 600 Armor less will make as much of a difference as it would to, say, an Enhancement Shaman. Hunters can kite for a reason, and if you're PvP where melee hits are more of a possibility, you'll have your PvP/Arena set anyway.

Armor rating is a secondary consideration *at best* for hunters.

Commento di 60888

This is probably going to get me called an idiot by somebody but as a BM hunter I'm looking to split my set bonuses between Beast Lord Armor and Desolation Battlegear (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/itemset=660 the enhance shammy set). My reason for not going for the 4-piece bonus here is that 1) I am a ways away from being hit-capped and so the Desolation bonus is very tempting and 2) 600 armor is not a terribly sizeable chunk on a lvl 70+ trash mob. Yes, the debuff lasts a while, but I am still liking the +hit on Desolation.

I'm hoping for legs and shoulders from Deso and the gloves for Beast Lord (currently have chest, legs and shoudlers of Beast Lord, kind of a shame). Filling out my head slot with a Storm Helm (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23534) and I figure I'm set for a while as far as PvE goes.

Commento di ZombiePope

Chest: Botanica, Warp Splinter (Last Boss)
Hands: Shattered Halls, Warchief Kargath Bladefist (Last Boss)
Head: Mechanar, Pathaleon the Calculator (Last Boss)
Legs: Steamvault, Warlord Kalithresh (Last Boss)
Shoulder: Steamvault, Warlord Kalithresh (Last Boss)

Commento di 73219

I did some math.

Beast Lord helm & https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27430
(gems are https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23100 , https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31862 , and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31864 )

56 AGI
49 STAM
35 INT
108 straight AP
7 Mp5
3 hit rating

Beast Lord legs & https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31106
(gems are 3 https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23104 )

61 AGI
49 STAM
27 INT
128 straight AP
11 Mp5
9 crit rating

Assume you have the beast lord gloves, chest, and shoulders and you have the 4 piece set bonus either way. Personally, I would use the BL legs and stalker's helm, but maybe I'm using the wrong gems.

Insight, please.

Commento di Xodiv

The 4-piece bonus is very very good for BM hunters; good enough to consider keeping 4 pieces past Karazhan.

Fully sundered, most bosses have 20-25% mitigation from armor, which means 3000-4000 armor. Ignoring 600 of that gives you a 2.5-3% DPS increase on every shot except Arcane, which scales with your other gear.

Commento di 92812

ok i see alot of numbers and about 10 people saying they like bla for bla bla reason but very little of it means any thing to me can some one just be blunt and say <set > is best for <spec> i am one of few survival hunters on my relm and so its hard for me to get advise from others most dont even know what a survival spec is let alone know any thing about them so plz some one tell me wich one i should pick and not just throw a crap load of #s on the screen

Commento di 105071

hey, can someone please submit a screenie of a male wearing this set please? preferably an orc

Commento di 95570

well..... iam using 4 pieces set bonus and debuff on armour whit Warr tank is like ur fighting naked boss. also trinket (Icon of Unyielding Courage) and just sit back and auto shoot him down :D

42/19/0

iam not taking it off untill i have 5/5 t4 set.

Commento di 151059

This set also drops on heroic mode? And if so does it have a higher drop rate on heroic?

Commento di 151753

Shamans: Don't be afraid to roll on this gear, even if you've got a Hunter in the group. The stats on these pieces are equally as good for Enhancement Shamans as they are Hunters. I had a Hunter freak out on me not too long ago for rolling on a piece of this, despite the fact that he was wearing two pieces of Desolation gear. It's certainly not fair that Hunters expect to get two gear sets, and Shamans get left out in the cold..

Maybe if Bliz would start putting Strength instead of AP on some pieces of mail gear, we wouldn't have these problems..

Commento di Thottbot

Commento di Thottbot

The chest is from the last boss in Botanica (Tempest Keep), and i've always found the Botanica to be a long instance. Its going to be a pain to get. Easy boss though.

The gloves are from the last boss in The Shattered Halls, and this is especially going to be a pain. Takes a bit of clearing and is probably one of the tougher 5 mans. Someone also needs a key to get in.

The helm is from the last boss in Mech (Tempest Keep). Easy instance. Easy boss.

The pants and shoulders are from the last boss in Coilfang - Steam Vaults. Easy boss but with a seemingly large loot table. He drops two items at a time but I still haven't seen the shoulders.

Good luck.

Commento di Thottbot

To maximize a hunters dps, especially in long boss fights, mana is critical. This set has 18 per 5 stock, plus your gem slots. 94int and 210atkpwr, this set is designed for long distance strong, if crit lacking(4%), sustained dps. You shouldn't have to drink after every pull, and should be able to go flat out in bossfights. Thats the whole idea of fd, hunters can go all out constantly as long as we have sufficent mana. With a well balance set a hunter can now look at 1600-1800atkpwr, withouttrinkets pre kara, and 17-25%crit depending on spec. With mana regen to boot = maximum dps. However without mana regen, all that atkpwr and crit is worthless when you run out of mana with 25% left on the boss. Then its either sit and drink or autoshot ftl, especially at the end of the fight when everyone is beginning to get stretched out. High atkpwr(1600+) and decent crit(18+) and mana regen, = gg.

Commento di Thottbot

I am a little unimpressed by the 4-set bonus. 600 armor ignored isn't a whole lot. And this only applies to the hunter, right? the rest of the group do not ignore the armor?

Commento di Thottbot

Here's my suggestion. Since this set has a crapload of agility and has bonuses that lean towards survival and BM specs, I'd take this if you're survival (lightning reflexes minimum) or BM. If you're MM specced, you're in the wrong place, as the AP on the other set is WAY higher.

NONE of this set is heroic mode loot, unlike desolation to answer the previous question.

Commento di Thottbot

"Each time you use your Kill Command ability, your attacks ignore 600 of your victim's armor for 15 sec."

Pet ignore this armor to?

Commento di Thottbot

I gave up on the chest on my hunter
botanica is too long, and the drop sucks. I'm almost exhalted and I still haven't seen it drop.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28186/laughing-skull-battle-harness
that's what i'm using, it drops alot in Black Morass. The socketing bonus isn't worth it, so I threw some crit gems in there

Commento di Thottbot

The matching boots for the set drop off Warp Splinter (final boss of Botanica) in Heroic mode

Boots of the Endless Hunt

Commento di Thottbot

Thus far as of the time when I posted this I appreciate this thread for not starting a flame fest, but this could be because there are no other classes who can properly utilize this set, with a 2 set bonus like -4 to trap recast time this is very clearly hunter only. I'm currently 2/5 Shoulders and Legs (revered with CE now...) which both drop in steamvaults, which is a very very easy instance... The set bonus I'm in love with I have points into trap duration and I can trap a mob and drop another trap before it breaks... I spend so much time playing crowd control in th 5 mans that this has become such a valuable asset that I'm actually losing out on DMG not for lack of effort but I have pieces which can grant more AP as well as more crit, but for the time I like the comfort granted to me from the set bonus. I like this set a lot and feel that with some enchants and armor kits and some glyphs that you could easily hit 1900ish AP I'm currently 1858ish self buffed, with just 2 pieces on. the 4 set bonus is somewhat weak, but might not be to bad against a mob who has 5 sunders on him. I think sunder is 590 armor reduction at 70 so this is ever so slightly better than a single sunder armor.

Commento di Thottbot

The Beast Lord set is obviously for a Hunter, with that said, we can move on.

Yes, the two-piece set was well deserved and called for, I can't tell you how many times I would go through some Coilfang instance and have my Ice Trap break at an inconvinient time and start stressing the Healer and Tank for another mob to join the pile.

At level 70 I went Survival. With that I get improved duration and cooldown on all traps, now Ice Trap can last upward of 22 seconds and have a cooldown of only 20 seconds. Thanks to Talents and this set bonus.

I was in Shattered Halls the other day, and we had an affectionate Rawr-Tank (Druid in bear form) and he said to me halfway through, "How do you do it? I was somplace with another hunter and they couldn't trap for beans. Excellent job, I'm really loving it."

Its just me, but who likes getting positive reinforcement? even if your one of the other talent-specs its okay, the set bonus is STILL worth it (the two-piece that is).

But people (usually the ones who don't understand Hunter-farming) say, whats up with that 4-piece bonus? Well, as any of the three talent specs it doesn't matter at level 70, you'll have anywhere from 15%-30% chance to crit on white damage. and you'll be using Kill Command a lot, in fact, the only thing that holds me back from Kill Comand is the 5 second cooldown. What with pets not being up to speed with thier Hunter masters is slightly obscured with this new bonus, it literally brings up the damage they deal. And I know, with those of you who have your talents in Beast Mastery look and say, "Jee," its worth it.

I love all the Hunter brothers and sisters out there may we live long and farm up anything we please.

Commento di Thottbot

Personally,

I really like the 2 piece bonus on both sets, and thats what I'm currently aiming for. I'm specced full marks with just enough in survival to make my traps 30% longer lasting. 4 seconds off the cooldown makes the traps just that much better. I hate being stuck on cooldown and having my trap break. With the increased trap duration, if they were going to break before the cooldown was up, it was always in the last 4 seconds, so I should be golden with that set bonus.

I picked up the desolation pants first, and loved them... then I got the beast lord shoulders... loved them too. I have been running shattered halls like crazy to get some new gloves. Lucked out and had the desolation gloves drop today. The 35 hit rating is WONDERFUL.

yeah, I would have taken beast lord if they dropped... but bearing in mind the pieces I have, and that I want the 2 piece bonus from both... I would have been farming heroic instances for my second piece of desolation.

I think I'm going to be spending my time outside of kara farming for the beast lord chest now.

Commento di Thottbot

boots : https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29262/boots-of-the-endless-hunt
Botanica Heroic Warp Splinter

belt : https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29261/girdle-of-ferocity
Shadow Laby Heroic Murmur

bracers : http://www.thotbott.com/i29259
Setthek Halls Heroic Ikiss

all of them are epix and ... pretty crappy

Commento di Thottbot

Attack Power, Attack Power, and maybe a little more Attack Power. Crit will come naturally as you gear.

By the way, if you lay your ice traps in advance to pulls. Your traps will be more effective. Cooldowns will run through while you wait for the pull, when the targets frozen, lay another between you and the frozen mob.

Commento di Thottbot

i just got a Beast Lord Mantle

best gems for MM

Yellow:
Wicked Noble Topaz: +4 Critical Strike Rating and +8 Attack Power

or

Unstable Citrine: +8 Attack Power and +4 Critical Rating

Red:
Bright Living Ruby: +16 Attack Power

what ya say?

Commento di Thottbot

Most hunters just want 2 pieces for the trap bonus.

For those like me that have no interest in spending 1000g on a flying mount I will never use (pvper), the only options left are the more difficult Shattered Halls and Steamvaults to get pieces.

Both end bosses are harder than those in Mech and Botanica and both these two instances are not pug friendly, you gotta be with good people.

Commento di Thottbot

I've had 4/5 for a couple of months now. I finally gave up on the gloves and bought crystalhide handwraps. Really like the set bonuses and as a 31/30 MM/SV hybrid the trap CD pwns in instances.

I've run all the instances where you could get Deso gear and have still only gotten the pants, IMO this set is easier to farm and a better fit for MM or SV hunters.

Footnote: I was running Shattered Halls for rep last week and the damn gloves finally dropped O_o

Commento di Thottbot

i've had this set for awhile. and the set bonuses are great

Commento di Thottbot

I have the gloves and pants of the Desolation set and Chest and Shoulders of the Beast Lord set, so get I get the two two-piece set bonuses, and nice stats all round.
Working on getting the helm for Beast Lord bow just for the Agil now -.-
I'm a full MM spec with the mandatory 3 in survival for extended range. As far as CC goes its pretty easy; Lay your trap, trap your mob, when the mob comes at you looking pissed hit him with a scatter shot and take a step back, by the time he's back to his senses the CD on traps is up and you can freeze him again. Not as efficient as being survival spec with 20 second CD, but man...wouldn't you just die of shame if you were a Survival hunter?

Commento di Thottbot

I have ran Shatthalls for the gloves so much I am now exalted with no glove, ran Botanica for chest exalted as well no chest, ran Shadow Lab for the Sonic Spear no luck...Blizz FU really!

Commento di Thottbot

The hunter's D3 Beast Lord set offers a 15 second Exploited Weakness spell, trigered by the use of the Kill Command ability...

The set items state "...your attacks ignore 600 of your victim's armor..."

Question: since the kill command is a damage buff to the pet's own attacks, does this mean that Exploited Weakness only applys to the victim when the pet is attacking, or can the Kill Command be used while the pet is passive (meaning that there would be no damage given by the pet, & therefore no boost to damage from Kill Command, but Exploited Weakness would still benifit the ranged attack)...

Also, armor set bonus states "...YOUR attacks...". Does this mean pet, meele, ranged, & spell damage are all given Exploited Weakness, or only the pet?

As a marks/traps spec hunter, my pet does not hold the armor, damage, or stamana bonuses from beast mastery talents to be utilized in heroic instances or post-game raids... I would like to know if marksman or survival spec hunters can still benifit from Exploited Weakness, whether pet is in combat or not. Been having difficulty finding specifics on how Exploited Weakness is applied with this set, please teach.

Commento di Thottbot

this set is for all specced hunters, just the set bonus helps u more if u go about 7 points in BM and i think 10 or so points in survival, but it helps MM hunters with all that int, so there

PS i got 2 pieces at the same time from the last boss in SV XD ( shoulders and legs)

Commento di Thottbot

What kind of gems would u recommend for this set?

Commento di Thottbot

This Set is prime for a BM hunter, but I would definately use different shoulders (Desolation/Towering Mantles) as it doesnt effect the 4 piece bonus for the sake of lack of stam. I had the chest drop last night but the Shaman also rolled need, he had had 2/5 Beast Lord and I had 4/5..said I already got the set bonus but wanted to get rid of the shoulders for the lack of stam. : / Told him he should be working on desolation and left.

Commento di Thottbot

dopped for me yesterday. almost gave up on these. just need the leggings and the gloves now. been on 30 sv runs or something =( noooo leggings for me.

Commento di Thottbot

got the shoulders and leggings as a single drop (whoot) got the gloves on the first run so i got lucky there, i really aint after the helm my Surestrike Goggles v2.0 are a bit better i think, but hit a hard patch of bad luck on the chest amour. been trying to get the amour of warpsplinter for ages and have yet to see it drop went from no rep with shay'tar to revered just running botanica to get em, halfway to exalted and still no love after 19 runs just for there, least i got a friend that is trying for the warriors helm and he aint seen em either so when we both are on we are running botanica, i guess the drop rate sucks for em both. though i have noticed a pattern on the drops in there, though i ain't certain if there is one but i thought i would ask if anyone else has noticed that.

Commento di Thottbot

So what would be better for preparing for arena this set or the grand marshals pursuit set?

Commento di Thottbot

The most pain in the ass for me was to obtain the leggings and chest. Got the leggings now after running SV around 12 times (maybe even more). Did botanica only 4 times but didn't drop the chest piece. Great set especially if you are BM hunter. Stuff the sockets with +agi. And I mean even the blue sokcets, put agi gems in it. Some of the bonusses are not worth putting a blue gem in it. (Like the bonus of +3 hit rating)

Commento di Thottbot

You know there are blue gems that give +agil with hit rating which might come in handy if your doing kara. or even add some health like +agil and +stam.

Commento di Thottbot

i was unable 2 find any thing on it but can the beastlord b tiered up? i hav 2 pcs of the set but i want 2 kno if its worth getting all 5.

Commento di Thottbot

I have hands and legs. And wrists. Check out companion items dropped from heroics at:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Beast_Lord_Armor

Commento di Thottbot

me i go with this set because of the 600 armor ignore
its not enough but hell these enemys are going to get harder and harder so i say shoot for the 600 ignore cause(if im wrong shut up get over it) its going to save for butt more then ever

Commento di Thottbot

Any suggestions for belt and wrists?
Already using Swift-sky hunter boots...

Commento di Thottbot

Girdle of ferocity, bracers of the hunt, boots of the endless hunt. Those match the set perfectly. And have a much higher drop rate, got them all from first run.

Commento di PrivateSniper

Currently the stats summary on this page is showing incorrectly (probably a side effect of beta somehow), for example, the tooltip for mantle shows 1 yellow and 1 red socket, whereas the table summary row shows only a single red socket, gloves and chest tooltips both show blue sockets but the summary doesn't show any blue gems.

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Beast Lord Armor è lo Set delle Spedizioni 3. Lui contiene 5 pezzi. Ha bonus di 2 e 4 pezzi.

	Beast Lord Cuirass (1)
	Beast Lord Handguards (1)
	Beast Lord Helm (1)
	Beast Lord Leggings (1)
	Beast Lord Mantle (1)

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