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Commento di 20588

Paladin tier 6 retribution,... and in my opinion these set bonuses are a joke compared to the complete awesomeness of the tier 6 healing set bonus. I hope these aren't the definitive bonuses.

Commento di littlidabbi

If it were on every attack u gain 50 mana it would be pretty nice, but just a chance is pretty pathetic. And the HoW bonus is to say very useless as its extremely situational.

Commento di Slange

Proc-chance of the 2-piece set bonus is exactly 20%.

Commento di 45660

it certain looks like, to me at least (by taking a look at the lightbringer battlegear and the skyshatter raiment), that blizzard is trying to discourage retribution specced paladins and restoration specced shamans, turning them into battle-priests and battle-mages respectively.

Commento di Flolah

If they made it where HoW didn't reset the swing counter, that would actually be awesome for bosses once in Execute range, if you have tons of extra mana. Still very, very situational.

Commento di 12678

4 piece set bonus is worthless, fairly well itemized other than that but they could loose some +dmg/heal for more melee hit rating imo.

Commento di 21885

There are plenty of other pieces to replace the Hit rating that isn't on there if you are concerned about it. I'll take the spell damage, personally. :) I am glad to see some + hit rating though too.

Also, keep in mind they are Increasing the damage of HoW in the next patch, so with all the spell damage included I am guessing you could possibly crit upwards of 4-5,500 damage with that or more. (with judgment of crusader applied too). That's a heavy amount of damage applied every few seconds. At level 60 my HoW was critting for 2,900+ quite often, so I have no doubt the new rank, increased spell damage, increased damage from the new santity aura, and then 10% more on top of that, stacked with vengeance x3 (new patch ability again) it can hit pretty hard.

On the PTR it hits for over 1,000 right now for me, without Crusader judged and I only have 240 spell damage. I have not crit with it though because I rarely use it, which unfortunately, in the end, makes it a pretty useless bonus, as said.

However, if timed correctly you can start the casting as you attack with Seal of command, which means after you hit them with SoC it throws the hammer immediatly. (It continues to cast during the attack animation). That throws on some pretty nice damage if you can get them below 20% fast, especially, because you can SoC hit, stun, judge, soc hit, cast HoW, typically dead by then, if it crits, for sure. I do this quite often. It works best if the target is stunned, or attacking the tank like it should be in PvE.

The 50 mana return is questionable as most Retribution paladins use 2hand weapons with slow attack speeds, but any mana return helps, especially with long fights. It will add up in the end at least.

Commento di 26387

Video of all Tier 6 armor sets in action: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0

Commento di Helot

At least the 2-piece Bonus's are slowly improving.

Justicar: 15% bonus to JotC
Crystalforge: Judgements cost 35 less mana
Lightbringer: 20% chance-on-hit to gain 50 mana.

Who knows, maybe the tier 7 and on will have good 4 peice bonus's too. Anything can happen.

Commento di 39703

This would be an amazing set for SoR- Reckoning Pally, giving them that chance to regain mana to continue to spam judgements, and off heal in a battleground, really great all around.

Commento di Helot

I find it quite odd that both the rogue, hunter and warrior sets include Ignore Armor effects, which are a direct damage increase for melee classes, and yet it is non-existant for us.

Rogue have 350, Hunters have ~250, and Warriors have ~405.

One could argue that since we do have a spell-damage aspect as well, it's sorta overkill to ignore armor, but the majority of your damage is from Physical, and hence a buff there would be appreciated.

It seems as though all the 'pure' physical DPS classes get this ignore armor, while the hybrid (Shammy/Druid/Pally) don't.

Commento di 53225

Just another note, IMO the hammer of wrath set bonus is actually quite useful, assuming that 1: you're raiding black temple/mount hyjal anyways, since this is tier 6 and drops in those raids; and 2: since you are raiding such high-end instance, the monsters have a LOT more HP, thus meaning they'll be below 20% for longer, and a lot of the time that's the most crucial moment in the battle. So when, let's say Illidan for the hell of it, is below 20%, he's gonna be there a long while, and a retro pally with 4 pieces of this set + avenger's wrath available would be able to rake out an UNREAL amount of damage, at a time when it's needed quite badly. Remember this is a PVE set. If you want godly PVP gear, go check out the merciless gladiator's vindication set, which has a huge cooldown reduction for Hammer of Justice (stun) which in PVP is incredibly useful.

Commento di 47772

In response to buffs of HOW, I would just like to say that I'm pretty sure that HOW scales with AP. Therefore with the buffs+such it will be a very strong move that will be the paladin execute.

In terms of the set, Compared to healing it should be better, Bliz doesnt like ret. With 5 yellow sockets to the set you can scale your crit chance amazingly.

T6 is the first 5 armor set in which all pieces of armor are able to have gems in them.

Of course, this set will be hard to get having it drop from high-end dungeons that few guilds have experianced so far.

And the reputation of a ret pallie raiding in high end raids is staggeringly low and should be higher... (I support ret raiding !,,!(O_O)!,,!)

I, myself am a ret paladin and give this set a thumbs up.

20% chance to get 50 mana is great. Will give us the right to use JotC.

Commento di 102243

The surprising thing about this set is that the season 3 arena suit has 215 strength total. That's probably because of the spell damage reworking Blizzard did. They will have to rework this set in order to make this a more effective set of gear.

I have tried this set in the 2.2 PTR's and the 50 Mana on melee hit is fairly often (probably more often than Judgment of Wisdom) so I wouldn't criticize the 2-set bonus too early or if you haven't gotten any pieces yet.

The 4-set bonus, however, needs a total reworking. Hammer of Wrath doesn't deal all that much damage unless it crits and only works when an opponent is below 20%. Should be more like "Increases damage dealt by your Crusader Strike ability by 10%" imo.

Commento di pibbz

Compared to the awesomeness of for example Mage (5% dmg to primary nuke for all specs), or rogue (6% to primary attack), druid 5% crit for Starfire (primary nuke), our bonus is nothing but a joke.

Really hope they re-design the stats and bonuses synchronous to the change in retri-mechanics.

Commento di mgp84

Just curious here, but do any other paladins notice the lack of agility in this set? I mean sure it has critical strike rating, but it doesn't scale with kings AND agility has more uses outside of a raid environment. Just curious though.

Commento di rayzorium

Season 3 ret set looks better by leaps and bounds. What a slap in the face.

Commento di 83251

This set changed in 2.4 the set gets 3 new pieces with haste rating. The set no longer adds bonus healing / damage to you. The spellups got converted to str & crit rating.

I think it gets a lot better =). Also other sets stats changed.

Commento di Dalus

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Commento di Corbon

Funny to see all the reworked stuff, especially regarding Retadins, yet the socket boni remain untouched. This goes for all pieces with a socket bonus. See https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28741 for example.

Commento di Faylynn

This is a good set for the Protection Paladin, although the way of obtaining it is rather difficult. I think having this set over any other is more beneficial for the protection side of Paladins. Holy and Rets do have good gear sets as well, but I honestly think that Prot has a better chance of surviving then any other of them do with this armor set.

Commento di Athene

There's no internal cooldown on the 2-set bonus, right?
Can anyone tell exactly what it proccs off?

If there's no cd, and it proccs of all melee, CS, seals and judgements, then in theory it can procc at a maximum of once every 0,8 seconds (perfect timing, no global cds).
With the 20% proccrate it would take avg 4 seconds between each procc.
50 mana each procc makes that an avg of 12,5 m\s, or 62,5 mp5.

The manausage of a retri, calculated on benediction, CS, SoB and JoB is at ~59 m\s, or 295 mp\5.
So best case is this 2-set bonus reduces your manausage by ~21%.
It would be less in actual use, and the importance of your mana regen depends alot of the fight. Some fights really challenge your manausage, while others dont.
I would prefer a bonus giving damage, but I'm not sure I want to complain either.

Commento di 137653

Hey guys, i was thinking it would look awesome with this:

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23455

It would look better in blue but it still looks great and the enchantments are good for Holy Paladins and it also does nice damage.

And I know this is a retribution set but even thougth the Holy Paladins also need mana and I for examle find retribution powers very usefull even being a Holy Paladin.

Commento di FinnrSlayer

Tier 6 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Hyjal Summit - Archimonde
Gloves Piece - Hyjal Summit - Azgalor
Shoulders Piece - Black Temple - Mother Shahraz
Leggings Piece - Black Temple - Illidari Council
Chest Piece - Black Temple - Illidan Stormrage
Bracer Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Kalecgos
Belt Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Brutallus
Boots Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Felmyst

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock
______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman
______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.
Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts (in the new daily island)

Commento di Thottbot

Bonuses are underwhelming Blizz... they had a chance to elevate ret pallys up to a respectable dps/ot and nerfed it... base stats are great and all but bonuses are lame. Should have to do with our anti-demon abilities like holy wrath/exorcism given the raids involved. A significantly increased parry rating would be great too.

Commento di Thottbot

Token drop locations from the Battle of Mount Hyjal and the Black Temple:

Gloves: Azgalor (Hyjal)
Shoulders: Mother Shahraz (Black Temple)
Legs: Illidari Council (Black Temple)
Helm: Archimonde (Hyjal)
Chest: Illidan Stormrage (Black Temple)

Commento di Thottbot

Well, I agree, priests are great healers. However, I have seen paladins out-heal priests by a long shot.
Paladins can be healers, and they can be DPSers.
You said that they are a "last resort"..well I completely disagree. Retribution paladins bring a lot more than just "last resort" dps. They bring auras, strong buffs, AND dps. Sure they can be great healers, but don't limit them to that.

Commento di Thottbot

really the 2 piece bonus to be worth it should be 150-200 mana, like the Mark of vindication. that trinket is the handest trinket i use as retr. keeps the mana effiency up that little bit more, and as for hammer of wrath. yeah its good but imp seal of command or judgement of command could be better who yeah. just keep bringing out better and better retr gear. we still exist

Commento di Thottbot

I believe that there is a way for pallies to be quite useful in raids that people didn't figure on using. While they aren't full melee dps like a rogue, they bring a tactical advantage to the fight that a rogue can't bring, when used properly.
First off, with the sanctity aura (up to 12% inc in holy) and improved Crusader (judgement will inc holy dmg by about 220 or greater with the right gear), they can increase the tanking ability of any tankadins in the raid.
Secondly, at the boss fights when nearly everyone is attacking 1 target, a ret's Judgment of Crusader inc crit chance by 3% from all sources. Also, if a holy pally hits a target with Judgement of Light, gives a CoH of healing anyone doing melee dmg at the min of 96 hp, a ret pally can keep it going with Crusader Strike while the healer stands back and focuses mainly on the main tanks.
Finally, ret paladins bring both blessings and the ability to change jobs during the raid. For example, in an area with too many opponents, they can either help the tanks out by off tanking or the healers by off healing, whichever is needed more at the time.
I wouldn't recommend having a great deal of ret pallies, one at most for a 10-man or 2 for a 25-man, but they can prove to be useful, especially when the other types of pallies are present

Commento di Thottbot

i stopped playing ret at about 55 and switched to prot, but from what i understood agility is up there with strength for retadins as it helps crit and combat speed. yet there is no agility on this gear. it still seems incredibly awsome, am i wrong? is agility not so important?

Commento di Thottbot

i went prot at like lvl 50 and now im 70 i can tank more i can do way more damage and i dps faster so it all worked out because from what i know there is better retro gear earlier in the game but the prot kicks in am i right?

Commento di Thottbot

For ret, get a ton of haste rating gear, stack tons of strength, and get at least 2 pieces of lightbringer.

Mana will not be an issue.

I reckon haste > crit in PvP especially for pally since you either get kitted or you smack. If you are in melee zone, you probably want to deal fast attacks than praying on crit.

I'm not saying not to stack crit. I'm saying you should try to get haste once you get crit to ~25%.

Commento di Thottbot

With the new updates coming out in patch 2.3, ret pallies are really gonna be getting a nice update. They'll be put back up into the ranks of other damage dealing classes.

For those of you who haven't seen it...

*Mana cost lowered for Exorcism, Holy Wrath, and Hammer of Wrath
*Vengeance duration increased to 30 seconds from 15 seconds
*Crusader Strike cooldown lowered to 6 seconds from 10 seconds
*Pursuit of Justice having 3 ranks. Increased movement will be 5/10/15% and also reducing chance to be hit by spells 1/2/3%
*Vindication frequency and duration increased and now reduces ALL attributes by 5/10/15%, not just Strength and Agility.
*Benefits of Improved Seal of the Crusader are in the base spell and the talent will instead give the benefit of Sanctified Crusader.
*Old Sanctified Crusader will be renamed Sanctified Seals which will increase your chance to critically hit with spells and melee by 1/2/3% and reduce the chance of your Seals can be dispelled by 33/66/100%
*Retribution Tree revamp. Details still to be released.

Part of the problem with Pallies for all this time is that Blizz had to work pallies to counter Shaman, making changes simultaneously so the balance of power was maintained. With Paladins and Shaman available to both factions now, each one can be changed and updated individually, with no regard for the other. With this little change, now the pally can get the love they've been missing. Unlike before, where Ret was basically used to hard level and that was it, they will actually be giving Retadins the ability to be versatile and useful in high end raids and instances.

With any luck, maybe Blizz will finally be able to get people realize that paladins aren't "Priests in Plate" but actually very viable in all three roles, DPS, Tank AND Healer.

As for this armor, it looks not too bad to me. Yes, Hammer of Wrath is a bit on the expensive side, but what was stated earlier about 20% being alot on a boss is entirely correct. As for the 2 piece bonus, it's nothing fantastic, but set bonuses aren't supposed to be overwhelmingly strong, or anywhere near on-par with trinkets. Besides, that extra 50 mana may just come in handy exactly when you need it.

Commento di Thottbot

if people didn't *!@#$ so much about the pallies "brokeness" they would still be uber

Commento di Thottbot

Now all us ret pallies need is resiliance on our pvp gear, and BETTER LIBRAMS FFS! I don't think I need to explain about the librams, most other classes have good stats on their melee weapon AND on their ranged weapon, we get librams which are damn rare and really don't do much good. As a 70 ret paladin, my only option was to buy a level 60 one in the AH which buffs my crusader seal judgement bonus damage by a little.

Commento di Thottbot

I just wish all the pally armor sets were freaking gold.

Commento di Thottbot

hehe... well I'm here to let you in on a little secret.

Okay, ret pallies, your concerned about mana aren't you?

Where does the bulk of your damage come from?

Oh, let's see judgements, crusader strike, auto-attack, and Seal of Command.

I say seal of command.

Now, how mana expensive is Seal of Command. Like 250 260 something right?

Not THAT bad. But we are talking about having to drain 250 mana every 8 seconds, or in reality, more or less like 350 including the judgment, and the cost of that.

That is 350 mana wasted every 8 seconds, and I say wasted.

Now what the hell is the friggin secret, well I'm getting there.

If you use Seal of Command Rank 1 then the man cost is only like 50 mana. We are talking at around only using like 75 or so mana every 8 seconds. The effect and proc rate of Seal of Command Rank 1 is still the exact same as from any rank, and you could be using rank 3 and still get the same 70% holy damage proc you always get :P I learned and figured this out at an early level "Wait, seal of Command Rank 2 doesn't increase my auto-attack damage by any more... damn" so I basically dropped it and used rank 1, a much more mana efficient auto-attack.

Oh, what about seal judgments you say? Like two things-

1, the mana SAVED by this will get you say, a crusader strike or 2, and few more seal of crusader judgments, you know, stuff like that

2 it crits for exactly the same as it would IF IT WAS THE LAST RANK! Grinding on mobs at 60+ I realized that there was always a bold 672 yellow damage flying across the screen... you know what the hell was that all about? Not crusader strike, not like SoC, what was it?

I finally went and checked and OH, it was my seal of command judgment. Huh, crits the same, and it turns out that with my spec I have an extra 15% chance to crit, so it crits REAL often...

Just a little tip. Hope other have already picked up on this O.o

Edit
Heh, proof

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1909/sealofcommandcritch8.png

Commento di Thottbot

Nice.

Commento di Thottbot

For 5-man stuff, the ideal party would be composed of:
1 Pala holy for healing.
1 Pala prot for tanking.
3 Pala retri for dpsing.

For 10-man stuff, the ideal party would be composed of:
2 Pala holy for healing.
2 Pala prot for tanking.
6 Pala retri for dpsing.

For 25-man stuff, the ideal party would be composed of:
5 Pala holy for healing.
5 Pala prot for tanking.
15 Pala retri for dpsing.

Have fun! =P

(Note that the 10-man and 25-man parts are mostly a joke)

Commento di Thottbot

y do ppl hate on ret pallys the pwns face..... and like the best DPS they bring better buffs like that one dude said and a good aura

Commento di Thottbot

Gloves: Azgalor (Hyjal)

Shoulders: Mother Shahraz (Black Temple)

Legs: Illidari Council (Black Temple)

Helm: Archimonde (Hyjal)

Chest: Illidan Stormrage (Black Temple)

and new once are

Belt : Brutallus (sunwell)

Braces: Kcalegos (sunwell)

Boots: Felmyst (sunwell)

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	Lightbringer Boots (1)
	Lightbringer Bands (1)
	Lightbringer Girdle (1)

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