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Commento di Neophyte

Rogue-Arena set for Season #2.

Commento di 42268

Are they going to change the look of new arena set different than season 1?

Commento di 40569

Wow, 10 energy is back.

Commento di 31120

Blizzard recently announced, and wowinsider among other sites report, that a rating reset will occur. That means that all teams will return to the default 1500 arena rating to duke it out all over again in efforts to return to the top. Arena points, however, will be retained.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/10/arena-news-new-items-every-season/

Commento di 54074

i just had a look and i can't figure this one out

Rogue set armor:

new: 1740 old: 1579

Priest set armor:

new: 1837 old: 840

warlock set armor:

new: 1837 old: 840

i know agility gives armor too, but that's a really big step up in armor for a "cloth wearing" class wouldn't you say?

not to sound like a whiner, but it's not like they add resistances to pvp gear for melee classes to cope with spells is it?

Commento di starshot

link to set pic on PTR server
www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_rogue.jpg

Commento di 41676

Hello!

Arena Season #2 set for Rogue. It looks like Tier 5 for this class:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_rogue.jpg

4 pieces bonus is just great. 120 energy is back! Last thing what I need is 2.9 speed weapon from honor. ;)

Cost in Arena points:
*Gloves: 1125
*Head: 1875
*Legs: 1875
*Chest: 1875
*Shoulders: 1500

Some simple maths:
(without sockets)
178 Agility = 356 armor, 4,45 crit%, 12,3 dodge%, 178 AP,
265 Stamina = 2650hp
184 AP
81 crit rating = 3,66 crit%
139 (+35bonus) resilence = -4,42crit%/-8,83 crit.dmg%

Total: (without sockets and enchants)
2046 Armor
2650 Hit Points
12,3% Dodge
-4,42 Attacker's Critical Hit chance/-8,83 Attacker's Critical Damage

362 Attack Power
+8,11 Critical Hit Chance

But remember that deep combat/subtley speced rogues will have better stats. (Sinister Calling and Vitality talents )

My proposition for sockets and enchants (for people who don't raid Black Temple or Hyjal):
Sockets:
Head:
*Meta: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32409
*Red: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28362
Chest:
*Red: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30574
*Red: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28363
*Yellow: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30592
Shoulder:
*Red: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30574
*Yellow: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30592
Neck (from honor, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33057):
*Yellow: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28119

Some combat rogues can prefer put +parry gems, like https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24036. :)

Enchants:
*Gloves: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=25080
*Head: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29192
*Chest: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=33992#z0z
*Legs: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29536
*Shoulder: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28910 or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28888 (prefer Scryers enchant)

IMO it's great set. :D

~Szatek

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Commento di DecoyBob

Costs for Season 2 gear are the same as Season 1. However, Season 1 items have had their costs reduced. The costs for Season 2 gear are 1875 Arena Points for the helm, chest, and legs, 1500 for the shoulders, and 1125 for the gloves.

Commento di skelitor

so can the season #1 set still be obtained then?

Commento di 75355

This is THE coolest rogue set ever! With this armor on you cant be seen in stealth, as in they can target you. but they just see a shadow on the ground and no you. I stealth around all the time in this, all I see is a shadow on the ground, sometimes i just take off the helm and there's a floating face. xD

Commento di 86834

This is the second arena set for rogues. It came out with the second arena season (june 20). Of course you need to be 70 to wear this set and you get it fighting in rated arena matches. The 4/5 bonus is like the Nightslayer 5/8 bonus.
but still, it's up to you whether this is worth it to get,

and if you think it's too difficult, well...you can always

take the easy route and get it fast at: url]

http://www.yehforgames.com/wow/pvp/rogue.htm

Commento di bornhj

Note that, as of 2.3, the three seasons of Arena gear will all count towards the same set bonus. That is, if you have 3 pieces of Season Two gear, and 1 piece of Season Three gear, you will still get the 4-piece set bonus (in this case, +10 max energy).

Commento di 50025

is Ture that with s4 this will be like s1 and you can get it with honor?

hope its just a lie

Commento di 111762

Has Blizz said when S4 will begin and if S1 will still be available with honor or will it be trashed?

Also, what boots, belt, and bracers are good to get with S2 gear?

Commento di 86342

In 2.4 They are going to Bring out a Superior Quality PvP Set From Rep Vendors
It is not Part of the Gladiator Tiers so you can have 2 Seperate +35 Resiliance if you feel you need to

My Opinion: Only get if you have under 4 or 5 pieces of Gladiator Gear. If you have
for Example 3/5 Glad ... use a Couple of Pieces to make up the Resilience.
But this New Set will be Affordable and A Small Effort to Aquire.

Link - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/itemset=745

Commento di 159356

If you're like me, you're an under geared rogue. With S4 coming out some time in the forseeable future, I'll be looking to use some spare honor points to upgrade my PvE DPS. Now, assuming NO heroic gear, the order you should be looking at to upgrade are:

Merciless Gladiator's Shiv

I use mutilate, so of course I'm gonna get the daggers. Just substitute whatever weapon spec you use instead :) Remember, weapon boosts are generally the largest DPS increase for physical DPS classes, so nabbing the S2 weapons should be priority number 1.

Next are the armor upgrades:

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Spaulders

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Tunic

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Helm

Keep in mind that the real draw here is the shoulders. They provide a ~3 DPS increase over Expedition Scout's Epaulets with 2 +8 Hit gems. The helm and chest are more DPS sidegrades against the average rogue gear Helm of the Claw and Hauberk of Karabor, respectively. Both the HoC and HoK are relatively easy to get for beginning 70 rogues, but if you're having trouble finding groups for them, the gladiator gear will more than cover it.

Fel Leather Leggings or Leggings of the Betrayed are better than the S2 legs, as are Fel Leather Gloves better than the S2 hands. You're better off saving those honor points for the +20 AP gem.

Again, keep in mind that this is only for the starter rogue and only for PvP'ing for PvE upgrades. If you're looking to get a foothold when starting an arena team, by all means get all the gear and wreck some faces :)

EDIT: I forgot to mention the ranged weapon: Merciless Gladiator's War Edge. This is ~.2 DPS upgrade over Felsteel Whisper Knives. Keep in mind though that the War Edge is the lowest DPS upgrade out of all the viable PvP options, so you should leave that one for last.

Commento di 159356

Shiv vs Shanker....

First there is only one sheet that kinda supports mutilate.
Secondly it has been deemed inconclusive at best for Muti specs due to the complexity that sealfate adds (the cycle becomes inconsistent and thus not a true cycle).

Yes, there is only one sheet that considers Mutilate, and it overvalues Seal Fate. However, since Dontmindme has the only sheet, it's become the basis to make these claims. If there was another sheet out there that completely blew away shiv, then I'd gladly retract my statements.

Third, with a Muti spec there are no talents that would give you an increase in dps from a faster OH. The only thing that could effect this would be DP stacks however unless your DP is falling off much it shouldnt be a problem as you shouldnt use envenom anyways.

True, there is nothing about a fast offhand mutilate that should give you higher DPS, but I only report what the spreadsheet tells me.

Fourth unless you are talking about other sheets then Aldrianas and Dontmindmes sheets then only one of those support it and it yields A dps increase when using shanker instead of shiv(thats in both sample T6 and T4).

Using a naked rogue and a T4 sample, the Shiv was still better for me. I can't explain the discrepancy for our T4 differences, I try to keep mine updated but there's a good chance it slipped through the cracks.

Sure i can understand the pvp reasons but dont spread BS about rogue crafting.
Also posting absolute values derived from a sheet isnt truth its what your set up of talents/buffs/gear would yield.

You are sort of right here, and I will admit a mistake by me. I left debuffs under what my Kara group can do. Adding sunder armor and CoR makes the shanker better. However, those two taken out produces higher DPS by shiv. Also, a rogue with no debuffs or buffs and in T4 sample gear has shiv doing better than shanker, make of it what you will.

I used absolute values to give a real number to the DPS. I know its not accurate for any rogue but me or those in identical gear and talent placement, but it provides a figure to work off of. Simply saying that one is better than the other carries very little weight by itself, posting numbers lets me substantiate those ideas.

I work hard to not spread "BS about rogue crafting", and although what I said was still true under specific circumstances (raid composition oriented), I realize it is not true 100% of the time. Therefore, I will delete my previous post (this doesn't mean I'm trying to weasel my way out of an argument or admitting defeat. Talk to me elsewhere and I'll be glad to keep going :)

Commento di 168818

Comparison to Season 1 Gladiator's Vestments set:
+161 Armor
+19 Agility
+30 Stamina
+11 Resilience
+28 Attack Power
+12 Crit Rating

Commento di Thottbot

They will look like tier 5

Commento di Thottbot

As of 6/20/07 (originally supposed to be 6/12/07 but pushed back another week), this set will replace the existing Gladiator armor set for rogues. It looks like a recolored version of Tier 5 and the 4-piece set bonus is the same thing as the old 5/8 Nightslayer set bonus, which DOES stack with the talent Vigor.

It is NOT a drop regardless of what anyone says and cannot be equipped by anyone lower than level 70 as the only way to obtain it is to participate in Ranked arena matches, something only a level 70 player is able to participate in. It is a Rogue-specific set and is not available to druids. Since the rewards are updated every season, it is likely that the pieces to this armor set will only be available from the arena vendor for 2 or 3 months or so, at which point it will be replaced by something even better. Likely a recolored version of tier 6.

Commento di Thottbot

I submitted a picture found at http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_rogue.jpg
It looks awesome! Like tier 5 but with some dark red on legs, head and chest. Imba

Commento di Thottbot

it looks like deathmantle

Commento di Thottbot

GG less armor then mages

Commento di Thottbot

The helm looks just like the mask of phantasm
http://www.animationartgallery.com/images/BTC/BTCNS13.gif
Pretty much the only pic i could find

Commento di Thottbot

haha, mage and lock set hase more armor oO

Commento di Thottbot

As of patch....something, this armor set can drop of trash mobs in RFC (Ragefire Chasm). When i heard the news i went to go farm RFC for the set. First peice dropped off a Trogg Shaman. My imaginary friend billy bob billy ninja'ed it from me! I got so mad i killed him. Second piece dropped off another mob. I Was about to get it but i got ganked by a Un'Goro Gorrila. I decided to call it a day.

Commento di Thottbot

This set doesn't suck you just lack the gear to compliment it.

Edit: Had to scroll down more. Damn.

Commento di Thottbot

How much arena points i need for all the set?

Commento di Thottbot

All of the pics can't seriously be of the actual merciless gladiator's set. For one thing, the merciless gladiator's set for humans and all other races who can be rogues looks much different in color than t5, and most of these pics look like t5. Now I conclude, if you really are stupid enough to post a pic of you with t5, okay, it's a nice pic with good gear, but save some room with people with the actual gladiator's set.

Commento di Thottbot

u !@#$%^ u can tell if theyre wearin mg or t5 by the color of the helm

t5=gray and black
mg = gray and red

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Merciless Gladiator's Vestments

Merciless Gladiator's Vestments è lo Set da Arena Stagione 2. Lui contiene 5 pezzi. Ha bonus di 2 e 4 pezzi.

	Merciless Gladiator's Leather Gloves (1)
	Merciless Gladiator's Leather Legguards (1)
	Merciless Gladiator's Leather Helm (1)
	Merciless Gladiator's Leather Spaulders (1)
	Merciless Gladiator's Leather Tunic (1)

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Indossando più pezzi di questa serie trasmetterà bonus per il tuo personaggio.

2 pezzi: +35 Resilience Rating.
4 pezzi: Increases your maximum Energy by 10.

Merciless Gladiator's Vestments

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