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Commento di 6225

Did him today with my 21 Priest. He hits hard and needs a 20+group (though rest of deadmines can be done with a 18+, VC is somewhat special ^^)
At 50% and at 25% he spawns extra adds, fear is recommended there.

Commento di 6813

VanCleef is the last boss of the Deadmines instance in Westfall, which is best attempted at level 18 or above. He can be somewhat challenging for a new group that is not well equipped, as he summons other Defias to help him at 50 and 25%. For a low level instance, the loot he drops is very good, especially Cruel Barb, which is a highly sought after one-handed sword for Rogues and Warriors. Also, Deadmines is probably one of the funnest instances in the game, so I would always recommend going to fight VC. This is one of the earlier instances you should not skip if you are Alliance.

Commento di 8237

Van Cleef can be overwhelming if you let his adds overcome you, but if you don't he isn't too hard - if you can get to him you can kill him no problem.

When you first engage him two guards will "pop out of the shadows". Polymorph or Fear one of them if you can. Have Damage Dealers attack the non Polymorph/Feared add while the Tank tanks VC. After the first guard goes down kill the other guard and have everyone focus on VC until he gets to 50% life. When he gets to 50% life he will summon two more guards. Polymorph/Fear these guards if you can and have the Tank get aggro on any that aren't Polymorph/Feared. Focus on Van Cleef until he dies and then dispose of the guards.

If you kill his first two guards he is fairly easy, but if you allow all four to be out then you will most likely wipe.

Commento di 8004

Although I've never done a regular vc run before, i have farmed it many times for the twink drops here. my friends made me run it for them 5-6 times a day so they could get cruel barbs. for the high level toons - farm t his place - can get good money Oo

Commento di 8409

VC is the first instance for alliance in WoW. Usually id say level 17+ could go, 16+ for a priest. A pretty good group to run VC with would be: Priest, Rogue, Hunter, Mage, and either a Paladin or Warrior for a tank. The low instance really doesnt require a warrior for a tank as paladins can do just as good. Just keep an eye out for patrol as you chug along through the instance. Fighting Van Cleef can be difficult unless you do it right. Many people use a bug on Van Cleef that enables the healer to never get hurt... bugging out all his adds. If the tank / paladin charges van cleef and pulls him out ..... the priest should jump on the cannon just near the ramp that you came up on. If the priest spams heals on the tank, all the adds will go to him. Unable to attack the priest, your group should be safe which will easily enable you to take him down. Just the way most groups go about taking him out.

Commento di OTLAWLS

heres a strategy for VC ok when you go up the ramp next to VC's room theres a barrel on the left side get all range and healers onto it then buff up and start the battle pull van cleef and run next to the barrel where range and healers are and tank him there when he spawns add just over heal and let the guards evade bug after you kill and loot VC just gentley have the 1 who has aggro of 1 or more of the guards jump off and onto the ramp and they will de-bug then kill them its pretty simple really well GL and HF!

Commento di Fedelis

This is a pretty easy encounter. When you go up the ramp onto the very last ramp onto the top deck, you will notice canons to the left. Your healer should jump to the neerest one before the battle begins. Have someone (preferably the tank) pull VC back towards the cannon so that he is in line of sight for heals.

Let the tank get a little agro before casting any heals, if a heal get cast early, VC will evade bug and the encounter will have to start over. Healing the person who pulled will pull the guard's agro to the healer, and they will evade bug. Simply dps and heal as you would any mob and the battle will end fairly easily.

Commento di Sly99

If you're going at him with anyone level 16 or under expect them to die quickly, its a good idea to take out the adds first so everyone can focus on him, if you have your weakest focused on the adds your strongest should have him to at least 50 by the time your done.

Commento di 8301

As everyone is saying, and I will say again, always have your healer on the cannon. If you screw up before then or don't use it, jump down to the wheel/gear, stay there and watch them evade bug. Good luck on your next run in that place!

Commento di 9545

This whole line of quests is fun and going through Deadmines is very fun. I have yet to see it's equal in WoW as far as dungeons go.

Commento di 9932

A neat trick i learned when doing VC is to get all your healers to jump onto the cannon closest to the ramp upto the deck of the ship. Then get your tank to pull him to the ramp so your healer can cast heals without worrying about his line of sight. When doing this fight, everyone should dps Van Cleef and his guards wil get bugged and stand there. Once you kill him tell your healers to jump back onto the ship, when they do so, the guards will continue attacking.

Commento di 24919

He's not a rare elite... Just an elite...

Commento di 7599

VanCleef can be soloed by a level 10 twinked rogue (with a dodge chance greater than 100%). Here is an article and video about someone that did it:

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/07/wow-moviewatch-rogue-solos-van-cleef/

Commento di 52234

If u have a Warrior tanking him, fastest way to get VanCleef down is to get warrior to charge, and cast himself retaliation. Notice that when VanCleef is at 50% there comes new adds. AoE could be good at this point.

Commento di 40405

I have done VC many times with my lvl 35 feral druid and a lvl 18 mage. Mage on canon, i hit VC till he dies, then the adds one after the other. Easy as pie :D

Commento di 55847

The Defias that VC calls are: 2 Defias Blackguards,(19-20 elites), and 2 more Blackguards at 25% health. If you're a group that can't beat VC and his guards, just kill VC, get his letter, head, or whatever you need, so you get what you want and can just ressurect at the graveyard and be done with the Deadmines :).

Commento di Tigerboy

Don't get swamped try to have a ranged person with you to take an add of VC's. And don't let them get the better of you.

Commento di 65604

for enchanters, the dead mines is the best place to get items for disenchanting.
i ran one time and i went from lv 50 enchanting to 75.

but its not the best place to disenchant for level 145 enchanting or higher

Commento di marbar

VanCleef is a sheriff in the movie Shanghai Noon

Commento di kimsta

Van Cleef is also the last name of one of the main characters in the movie "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". His character personifies the "Bad" in the movie title.

Commento di 52464

I've heard that there are pieces of armor that resemble alot VanCleef's, but so far haven't seen any myself, and I'm wondering if this is true or just a hoax?

Commento di 72954

Edwin Vancleef, is the last boss of "The Deadmines" this guy is fun to fight and hase good drops he sommons 2 Defias Blackguards when you first fight him, if its taking more long he will sommon another 2 Defias Blackguards just maybe sheep, fear or freeze trap them or whatever then kill Edwin Vancleef then the guards, its usally what i do.

Commento di 76934

Has anyone farmed two Cruel Barbs? If so how long did it take?

Commento di 61473

VanCleef isn't marked as Rare Elite anymore. It is possible for healers to stand on one of the cannons in order to get aggro of the adds and let dps fully concentrate on VC. His loot is considered by many as the best of that lvl, Cape of the Brotherhood being used by many until the late 30's, and Cruel Barb being a good off-hand for twink rogues (with main hand either Shadowfang/Sentinel's Blade/Assasin's Blade).

Commento di Solander

Does anyone else feel like killing this dude kinda sucks?
I mean, he totally got shafted by the corrupt nobles of stormwind.
I say we all defect, and join the Defias!

Long Live Vancleef!

Commento di 85684

Hunters if you are boosting, use flare so you can see the bodyguards and then focus on killing vancleef at first and if the group is capable let them take care of the guards. If you are having trouble if you are 35 or under focus on vancleef and then just run, or let yourself die its alot easier.....

Commento di Nailer

Now he is 20 level (2.3 PTR) instead of 21

Commento di 21721

How much XP does VC and his guards give you, at lvl19?

(Rate this question down when someone's answered :)

Commento di 71968

Maybe one of the coolest characters in the wow-universe :)

Commento di 84425

So, you've finally gotten past all of Van Cleef's bodyguards and reached him. He is inside a dark cabin at the top of the ship. Be prepared for this battle, because doesn't leaving the kingpin of the Defias Brotherhood sitting alone in a dark room seem a little suspicious? Duh. Upon attacking him, 4 Defias Blackguards will leap from the shadows and protect their master at all costs. Take them down first, and don't turn your back on them seeing as they all can backstab you. After slaying Van Cleef, rip off his head and bring it to Gryan Stoutmantle on Sentinel Hill. (Wouldn't it be funny if you could run back to Rhank'Zor and wave it in his face saying "Gryan Stoutmantle pay big for dis head!")

Commento di 115747

Relatively easy for a mid-30s warlock and mage duo. DON'T run into the dark house, instead, sneak over to the left as far as you can, and look in. You should be able to target one of the two stealthed Defias by the door. Pull him, and the whole battle moves outside. Crowd control is your best friend; lots of judicious sheeping and fearing and VanCleef goes down easy.

Commento di Skelic

The easiest tactic, really. There are many good tactics listed here, but no one has mentioned the easiest technique for this hard-hitting boss.

1. Get your healer(s) to the cannon next to the ramp that leads to the ships highest platform
2. Let the tank pull VanCleef, and instantly cast a low-rank heal to generate threat, keep repeating heals
3. All must focus on DPSing Edwin
4. Healer jumps from the cannon, cast Fade (or nothing if you aren't a priest)
5. Kill the mobs

Explanation: All the adds keep 'evading' because they can't reach the healer, the cannon is a safespot as also is the famous cartwheel. You can also do this in the cartwheel if you are unsure how to do this.

Commento di 125997

what percent is it?cause i cant see it there.

Commento di Rach3l

I wanted to try kiting Van Cleef back to the entrance of Deadmines so the twink on my second account wouldn't have to be escorted to the end, enabling me to skip as many pulls as possible to get VC's loot. However, he leashes back to the boat as soon as he crosses the south threshold out of the Goblin Foundry. So, if you want to do as little clearing as possible, clear all the way up to the Goblin Foundry and park your twink inside of it. Then pull Van Cleef to the Foundry, kill him, and loot.

Watching for patrols doesn't matter because your twink can still roll on loot while dead.

Commento di 121742

when i run DM solo or im running someone i think Mr. Edwin VanCleef
is not challenging really at all. And im only lvl 40 is the one i run through DM a lot.
but i have life steeling and 1 other chant on my sword cuz i have a twink.
but i personily think DM is an easy instance to run.

Commento di 101494

I believe he is a reference to Stargate Sg-1 in the episode entity when it searches the data files before O'niel a file with the name van cleef appears, i may be wrong.

Commento di 160947

I solod this on my lvl 27 dranie hunter. Blizz realy needs to nerf hunters.

Commento di goblinego

I kinda think that Vancleef will be lvl 70 in future :D

Commento di 167496

Also if you haven't all ready(even tho it's kinda obvious) take out captain greenskin incase you haven't before you attack vancleef or you will have some major problems if you drag Vancleef out onto the deck

Commento di Bsmx93

Before you go up the ramp to get to the top, if you look to the left, theres a small cannon, make your healer stand on the cannon. Now aggro VC, make the tank aggro VC as much as possible but don't let anyone attack the guards, let the healer heal, the healer will aggro the guards, but since the healer is on the cannon, they wont attack and will just go into Evade mode, so all you have to do now is take VC down, heal up, then attack guards.

Commento di 159042

instead of using the cannon i use the 'wheel' for hunters/casters and letting melee stay right in front of wheel. That makes it so no one can do 1 dmg to all ranged/spellcasters unless they can use a thrown or bow ability which i have never seen.

Hope this helps
Level 14 Gnome future self twinking.

Commento di Corilithon

The first two adds don't spawn, they are already there under Stealth. If you have a Rogue with you that isn't really low-level, have him stealth and walk close to the door, and pan his camera. The two are sitting on either side of the opening, and can be Sapped before the tank pulls VC. Just makes it a little easier, but the best idea would be to just kill it instead of leaving it incapacitated for a while.

Commento di Thottbot

VanCleef is not that hard, as long as you do not concentrate on him at first. Send your tank up to draw his attention (do not have a caster pull him), and then kill off the two hiddens who follow him out. The reason for this is as follows: at roughly 3/5 hp, VC calls out two more hiddens, so now you have 5 things to deal with instead of just three. Kill his two ass-kissers, get him to 3/5, then kill the remaining three in any order you want (I prefer to kill VC first, as he does the most damage by far).

Commento di Thottbot

Anyone who said Murk Eye was elite was wrong. Murk Eye is not elite and does not have a gold dragon around his frame. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Neglan/WoWScrnShot_062505_050655.jpg
Brack is not elite either, though he does have a dragon around his frame. Please note it is a silver frame, though, meaning he is a rare spawn, not that he is elite. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Neglan/WoWScrnShot_062505_050251.jpg

Commento di Thottbot

Solo'd all of Deadmines as 31 hunter. Probably could've done it at 30, since I had all of DM solo'd except for VC at 28 and got VC down to 3%. Unlike some people here this isn't at all bull%^&* - I can give a step by step walkthrough of how I did it if you want, though I'm sure VC is the only one worth mentioning so here goes:

To kill VC solo as a hunter, you need to understand something about the encounter. VC is in a room with two rogues on either side of the door. If you try to kill the two rogues first and then <insert escape method here> they will respawn when VC loses aggro. This is to prevent battles of attrition where you kill 1 rogue at a time until VC is alone. But clearly, at level 30 you can't fight VC + 2 elite rogues + 2 more elite rogues at 50% all together. So the way you do it is to isolate VC's guards from VC using an aggro trick. Basically, you want the rogues aggro'd on you but VC not (this is tricky because they're all linked, but not impossible if you use the geography to your advantage). If you can accomplish this then you've got the encounter handled because the two rogues will attack you while VC is un-aggro'd which means they won't respawn until he's un-aggro'd the next time (which won't happen since you'll kill him the next time). Getting aggro from his guards without him involves a combination of Feign Death and jumping on the water wheel. Keep jumping on the water wheel after aggro until you are in a situation where the rogues are aggro'd on you while VC is running back to his spawn point (there's a split second difference between when he runs and when the rogues run). It might not work at first - and really this is more about luck of the draw than anything else - but sooner or later you'll isolate 1-2 rogues from him.

Once you've got VC to yourself or him and one other rogue, simply do the following: Kill the remaining rogue first if he exists. Freeze trap VC while this happens. Then kill VC but make sure your pet's hps stay above 60% (use mend pet for this) until VC hits 50%. Then go all out on VC starting with a multishot to bring his new minions from your pet to you. Tank these minions while you go all out DPS on VC. He should die with you about to die. FD at this point and let the rogues reset. Loot VC and go boast that you've solo'd all of DM at 30.

Commento di Thottbot

A group of level 18's with a good healer and a good tank that can hold agro can go through the deadmines with no sweat. Smite is sometimes a problem because of his stunning but if you have the tank pull him back far enough you unstun before he reaches the chest and comes back. This gives the healer a chance to heal the tank and any other group member that might need it. It all really depends on the group and their experience in the deadmines.

Commento di Thottbot

For those who wanna be a VanCleef look-a-like:

Make a Human Rogue and give him long black hair, the hairstyle with the right part slightly longer then the left part.
Tan his skin to lightbrown.

Now all you need to do is level your char and get the following equipment:

- Red Defias Mask
- Stormshroud set (it's the armor VC wears)
- Cruel Barb in main hand
- Assasin's Blade in offhand

Next, drink a Winterfall Firewater to get his size, and voila, you look just like VanCleef.

You can do this to look like a Defias pirate too, but then you should get this equipment:

- Red Defias Mask
- Buccaneer's Boots of the *****
- Buccaneer's Vest of the *****
- Buccaneer's Pant of the *****
- Buccaneer's Cord of the *****

Get the Parrot Cage (Green Wing Macaw) to make it even more realistic.

It's pretty cool to do but not to fight with since it's all cloth.

Commento di Thottbot

i soloed this as a 33 hunter with an owl as my pet, Im BM specced, so i barely got hit at all, i just used multi shot the whole time while my pet held aggro with screech and growl, Only problem was when VC spawned his other 2 guardians, i had to FD, bandage, and then help my pet out, easy to do with a good pet, just need potions and bandages

Commento di Thottbot

Felt like contributing/was bored(-.-)
Blues in DM:
Taskmaster Axe (2h axe,19,6dps 8stamina 8 spirit 2,70 speed,lvl 18)

Lavishly Jeweled Ring(Ring:O 2 agility 6intellect,lvl 17)

Smite's Mighty Hammer(2h mace,19,7DPS,11 strenght
4 agility,lvl 18)

Corsair's Overshirt(5 stamina 11 spirit,chest,lvl 19)

Cruel Barb(1h Sword,15,5DPS,+12 AP,lvl 19)

Cape Of The Brotherhood(Cape 6agility 3 stamina lvl 20)

Blackened Defias Armor(Chest,4strenght 3 agility 11 stamina,Lvl 19)

Numbug lvl 70 mage on Kilrogg

Vidvinkelsyn lvl 17 Warrior of Kilrogg

Good Luck In Deadmines :P

Commento di Thottbot

You forgot Cookie's Stirring Rod (wand 20-38 dmg, 22.3 dps 1.30 atk speed)

Commento di Thottbot

ok i will tell what i think you should have:
1 Tank (warrior)
1 Healer (priest)
2 Attackers (dont spam me because i writed attacker)
(hunter and druid as cat)
and the last should be your choise

Commento di Thottbot

i did solo the whole instance including him at 29 the trick is to kill the guys with him first as he summons more guys later on

Commento di Thottbot

He wields Thief's Blade in offhand, drops from Smite

Commento di Thottbot

Dammit i have a 19 Twink wanting for cruel barb to drop but wont friken drop! That overshirt always drops

Commento di Thottbot

I was able to solo to VC with a 31 Nelf hunter.I had a litle trouble with Smite and Greenskin but I was able to do it without dying.

VC on the other hand just levelled me >.<

I was able to kill two of his guards before my pet died then even with FD I couldn't get them off me to rez pet and continue :/

By then the instance was resetting, I had bags full of greens for AH, and I was almost out of pet food so I went back to Stormwind.

Trying again tonight though.

Commento di Thottbot

i ran a solo run in VC on my shadow priest at lvl 40 it was too easy just keep in shadow form and it will be no problem when you take Van clef on fear his guards and just keep attacking him

Commento di Thottbot

the easiest boss in the whole instace i found... totally easy.

Commento di Thottbot

On my level 29 twink priest, I had trouble soloing. Have spellthreads, +30 spell dmg wep, +20 shadow damage gloves, +spell damage bracers, etc.. The whole deal. I don't get how level 31 hunters and rogues below 31 could solo this, no matter how experienced they are at playing.

So, just warning you 37-ands-under's to not waste your time. =)

(Soloing it on my 42 rogue wasn't terribly difficult, but I had to pot and vanish when killing the bosses.)

Commento di Thottbot

i soloed Deadmines at lvl 29 with my non twink rogue. I had to skip smite =/ but VC= easy as hell just kill him then Vanish and then the guards arnt a problem

Commento di Thottbot

Edwin WanCleef...Edwin....

Commento di Thottbot

A VERY GOOD TIP FOR BATTLING MR SMITE!
he has his stunning thing which can sometimes get on your nernvse right? well instead of fighting him by his chest that cant be opened do it farther down. First agro mr smite then run back till ur almost at the door which you blew up or picked the lock. Pick off his guards which are really anoying. Once Mr Smite gets pissed and runs away, before he is at his chest you should have un stunned, run up to where u can attack him with ranged weapons and get ur casters or ranged peopel to attack him untill he starts to run towards you, run back to where you first fought him then fight him again. This strategy works really good if you are a caster and you are soloing this, mages i suggest u do a really strong first attack (ptroblast) then blink back. Hunters i think are best with this strategy because they can shoot on the run =)

Commento di Thottbot

i did that with my rogue and sprinted 2 him be4 he got to chest =)

Commento di Thottbot

Just soloed on my 43 Hunter,very easy

Commento di Thottbot

soloed this instance on my nth time on my lvl 70 paladin. The chest dropped for my zth time.

classic pull involves:
everything to the gate, kill the fat ogre, then pull everything to the shredder, kill everything with consecrate, tell the lowbies to loot, move to the smelter's room, kill everything and pray that the newbies are done looting. Run back kill the pats, if they aren't up.

Then clear cave to the cannon.

Then after the cannon, run around the boat, pulling everything including VC, cookie, Mr. Smithe, and the captain. 5 minutes later, run out and reset. Rinse and repeat.

Commento di Thottbot

Same here i'm after the 'Cruel Barb' for my 2nd (22 NE Tank).

My partner runs me (70 NE Tank). Been there 7 times now - NO drop. Plenty of the Armor!

Corsair's Overshirt x3
Cape of the Brotherhood x2
Blackened Defias Armor x2

Did the runs once a day.

Commento di Thottbot

I've literaly run this 12 times now and the Defias chest armor has not dropped. such a pain in the..

Commento di Thottbot

Easy to run instances like this on a hunter...just use eyes of the beast and make ur pet aggroe everything till each boss then once eyes of the beast ends call your pet and put a explosive trap down and watch the miners burn.

Commento di Thottbot

actually yeah two cruel barbs can but since there rare drops...most likely not gunna drop.

Commento di Thottbot

been scanning a lil bit and havn't seen anyhting about druid.... i'm lvl 40 NE druid and it wasnt hard but have you concentrate. on sneed just stealth when he goes up the ramp and take out the green goblins. as for VC i did this on xmas so i had my green guardian go in lvl 58 and he got vc to 50% :O but if he wasnt there it wouldnt of been hard just make sure in bear if you fo agrro all 4 guards. i ided once coz lvl 15 agrroed half people on boat including greenskin -_-

Commento di Thottbot

It is entirely possible to kill VanCleef as a lvl 29 Hunter. HOWEVER, you need to be twinked and have all your enchants + BG rewards.
I can kill VanCleef and win, every time I fight him. I have Gnomish Harm Prevention Belt, Arena Grand Master, and Talisman of Arathor equipped. I also have the maximum attributes for my pet, including Bite and Claw 4 for my cat. You also might want a healing Pot for good measure.
Here's what I do:

I kill off all the guys around VanCleef so that it is just VC sitting in his room and his two guards.
Prior to the battle, I make sure my health and mana are full.
I lay a frost trap about halfway to the cabin (without aggroing) and step back. I wait for the cooldown to get 3/4 of the way finished so I can lay another trap. I use Hunter's Mark on VC.
Send Pet + timed aimed shot timed to hit after the pet gains aggro. Let pet get 2 hits in and then heal pet.
The Heal will usually aggro the 2 guards if your aimed shot didn't. They will come for you, but you need to ignore them and keep firing on VC. Lay another trap (frost is best, and begin kiting to stay out of range. By this time you should have activated your shields and, if needed, drank your pot. Van cleef gets bumped, then continue kiting the guards (while using wing clip liberally) around your frost trap until you can kill them with help from pet.

If things get hairy, just make sure VC is dead, and then jump on wheel of ship. Your pet will probably be killed, but you can live to fight again.

*Note: I think it is much more difficult to do VC with a low level tagging along as a hunter. You would think it is easier, but to maintain aggro on VC + guards while a lvl 18 is with you is difficult. I get killed sometimes because of this. For this reason, I prefer to solo VC.

I also have Cobrahide Leg Armor, so I think it would be even easier to do it with Clefthide Leg Armor or NetherCleft. I suspect it may be possible to solo VC at lvl 27 with Nethercleft taking the place of the inability to have Talisman of Arathor (Need lvl 28).

Commento di Thottbot

Ok This is a theory (and probably wrong), and feel free to spam this post to hell if im wrong, but a priest lvl 30ish could solo VC as follows:

Bubble, Dots, VE, mindcontrol him to attack his guards, at the end of it PsyScr to send them away, repeat.

Of course this assumes that VC is not immune to MC, and as a boss he probably is. This also assumes you have got a decent bubble, a shedfull of mana potions, and about 150+ intellect for the mana.

Commento di Thottbot

going to what shadowgan said about rogues soloing bout or w/e i disagree because my rogue at lvl 18 could kill them by one but i had hlp healing. i would have to say ur wrong cuz a rogue can solo it at lvl 30 even i bet thts what im doin and also i am not a full twink i only had bout 800hp at lvl 18 and i coudl take them on 1 at a time most twinks have about 1300 hp by lvl 19... heh i did have almost 1k hp (971) at lvl 19 but i was an enchantless twink :((couldnt find ne enchanters tht coudl gimme) hope this helps jsut take a priest with ur lvl 24 rogue w/e works for u (under 30) and u can do it

Commento di Thottbot

i've killed hem like 100 times and i finelay got it

Commento di Thottbot

Im a lvl 36 hunter,markmanship spec. and i owned VanCleef in less then a minute :) it was pretty easy,all i did was kill VanCleef then yuse feign death got up after the shadow people left looted VC then boom i got my stuff lol

Commento di Allakhazam

my lvl 19 twink needs that defias armor.. but i just wont drop! killed him a hell of a lot of times... but still no armor... damn u vancleef!

Commento di Allakhazam

Can anyone post a picture of an Undead rogue or an Orc Rogue with this set ?

Commento di Allakhazam

He also dualwields, hits very fast, and summons 2 rogues every once in a while. He also spawns with two stealthed rogues, one on each side of him. Have your tank take VC, and everyone work on the rogues. Turn on VC when the rogues die and just pound the #$%^ out of him with everything you have.

Commento di Allakhazam

Its retarded.. don dm 30 runs now with my twink.. a pall boosting me.. no armor yet -.-' seen tons of shirts... and got 10 blades in my backpack.. 4 capes.. -.- But no bloody Defias armor! comone.... 14% my ass :P

Commento di Allakhazam

the guards get annoying, but when my lvl 60 friend use divine intervention, i had to fend for myself, i kicked mr vancleefs defias @$$.
he went down in 5 hits lvl 34 hunter =P

Commento di Allakhazam

Went with a 10 man group to DM after a ZG run a few weeks ago.

4 hours of ZG + beer + 10 level 60's + Deadmines = hilarious!

You just take each section out in one go. We had 2 druid tanks round up every mob in each section, drag them back to one point where a couple of mages Arcane Exploded them to death :) Mages were having a competition to see who could get the most burst DPS. Next day a few screenshots appeared on our forums with 30k+ DPS showing on the damage ticker.

The grand finale was 3 mages, 2 hunters, 2 rogues and a lock letting rip with a simultaneous Pyro/Frostbolt/Aimed Shot/Ambush/Shadowbolt on Van Cleef.

Definitely a nice way to chill out after a long raid :)

Commento di Allakhazam

he is the definition of a punk i have alot of higher lvl freinds that helped me. a lvl 43 pally a lvl 35 warr and a lvl 60 preist. pluse me and im a 20 rouge we messed him up.

Commento di Allakhazam

easy to solo as a level 40 druid

first here is wat the fella does:
wen u attak him he has 2 defias blackguards that fight with him, at exactly 50% health another 2 defias blackguards appear, they continue to fight even after vancleef is dead so they must be killed to be stopped.

there r two ways to kill him

1) pull him in bear form and kill the guards 1 by 1 heal wen u need it, after uve taken out the two guards kill vancleef all the way and take out the other two guards. heal wen u need it, just remember u have 3 mobs on u so give urself alot of cast time.....easy peasy.

2) after u have kill smite go left first and kill cookie this will help later on.
wen u get to vancleef, make sure u have inventory space, ur gonna do a super fast loot and run. wen u pull vancleef absolutely pwn him, do it in cat form if u like but u may need to heal more often, as soon as hes downed u will have 4 guards on u, kill em if u like but otherwise loot vancleef and jump off the edge where u kill cookie erlier, there is a bridge that leads to an exit to the instance it acts as a kind of back door, get through there and u r home free

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This is probably the most annoying boss in the game, from what ive read, and what ive seen from personal experiance, he drops what you dont want him to, and has an annoying tendance to never drop what you want. i wanted Cruel Barb at lvl 19, didnt get it till 24.

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Edit: Removing all my posts and stopping payment on premium because of karma trolls, and poor administration.

Edited, Tue May 10 12:18:31 2005

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my lvl 32 warrior, aidonna, can solo VC as long as someone gets rid of the rouges...he is TOOOOOO easy.

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It's much easier to just focus fire on VC rather than bother with his buddies first, I've really never had success with groups that go for his guards first.

God I remember the first few times I fought VC, I seriously thought he was like invincible since he wiped our group everytime =)

Of course back then I sucked and so did most other peeps, ah those were the days =P

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Soloable at around 30 by Shaman. I was enhancement, relatively untwinked. Weapon: Corpsemaker. Weapon buff: Windfury.

Start the fight by dropping stoneclaw (AND YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU'D USE THIS) and pull VC with a flameshock. Backpedal while meleeing with VC. His men will eventually break your stoneclaw; When this happens, drop earthbind. pull the group down the ramp leading onto the boat proper, and jump off the ledge onto the deck below.

Drop manaspring. Heal yourself. Vancleef and his boys are going to come pounding down the stairs in about a minute; Once they're in range, resume melee. Shock him once or twice. Once you can't take the melee anymore, jump into the water. There's a circular outcropping of rock in the middle of the water; swim to it.

Set down manaspring, heal. If you have a mana potion, drink it. Finish off van cleef, loot. You'll probably die from his four guards. If you're tauren, you might be able to war stomp, and water walk to the boat; If you can do this, run up the ramp until you get to the water wheel and jump on it. Victoly!

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Do you have to be by the body to get cruel barb or can you just have it on Master Looter so a 60 can run in and kill him? like can you wait at the entrance have it on Master Looter the 60 is ML and runs in kills VC and still get the loot?

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I have a 19 warrior twink (well 17 now :P ) but I'm having a good friend (60) run me thru VC and WC for twink items. I did Edwin about .. 3 times? and He dropped one cape and I think 2 of the cloth chests. Really kinda pissed me off cause those are the 2 items that I COULDN'T use -_-

I could use the Barb for when I'm tanking with the flag in WSG.
Even tho it is leather, it gives awesome stats, 210 health with 100+ health enchant. I'm also looking forward to getting Smite's Hammer, and some other leather/mail @#$% from WC.

Haha, sorry. A bit lengthy. BTW I'm horde.

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He's easy

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the name of my doctor is E.VanCLeef :P

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Anyone know a set of armor that looks like his? lol

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I love this guy, did the Deadmines my very first time, got the Cape of the Brotherhood, went the second time, got the Blackened Defias Armor! And third time I got the Corsair's Overshirt. You rock VC! :P

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i soloed the whole instance and 28 with duals and i pulled out 2h axe and retall for all bosses then logged and waited for it to cooldown and came back on easy =)

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This guy drops some fair stuff for twinking.
Cruel Barb is good for warrs and rogues, blackened defias armor is good for all leather-wearers (and warrs unconcerned about armor, that stam is nice), and Corsair's Overshirt is a fair Priest item. Not the worst lock item either, although there are better.
Mr. Smite drops a couple good items, Cookie drops that wand, and Gilnid drops a pretty good caster ring (+6 int).
What to do:
Have a friend (50+ to make things quick and easy) clear the instance while your char waits outside. If you have a main, help him out to make things even quicker, leaving your twink-to-be logged out in front of the instance.
Once you guys have cleared up to Mr. Smite (unless you wanted the ring, then get your char in for Gilnid), have your friend wait for your alt while you log. If you don't need anything except from VC, then have him carry on up to the top of the ship.
Try to get past the respawns and pats, if you can't then get your friend to reclear a bit. Then take on VC. My 56 fire mage three-shotted him (combustion, pyro/fireball/fireball with some nice crits :D), and he has terrible gear for his level.
So long as your twink does not enter the instance except for the loot he needs (enter before the boss dies), he will get minimal xp, allowing as many runs as needed.

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Elite means he has the HP of a lvl 40 or so and the damage of a 25. Its to make him tough for groups. Should be able to be kill solo by someone 5 levels over him... or less if lucky.

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Whut lv could i solo vc at im a 29 rough right now i wana know if i cna solo it any time soon

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He is listed as a rare elite while he's a boss and he's always there
It's illogical.

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i dont get any items i whant i whanted Cruel Barb or defias armor.
when i get whit my high lvl warrior lvl 50 he gets armor of vancleef dam Vacncleef!.

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My group raped him. We had a lvl 34 Warrior who took agro. And the rest were: lvl 24 lock, lvl 30 druid, me(lvl 18 rogue), and i think a lvl 25ish hunter. When we started fighting him, it was everyone having their own agro. But as the battle dragged on, All the rest except Warrior and me, died. So the warrior took out Van Cleef and we whooped the remaining rogues with the warrior at a quarter health. He only dropped cape of brotherhood and unsentletter that starts a quest. I won the cape and stole the letter =P ( not really steal, they just didn't need it). Next time I want the barb as i'm duel weiding swords but i dont think he always drops. Overall he was easy as long as you take out rogues first and then VC, or else the rogues will annoy the *!@# out of you when ur killing VC. Can probably do the run at about lvl 40+ including the killing of the rogues.

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This instance is solable by a hunter as low as 32, I got my cape of the brotherhood this way~ Van Cleef is a really tough fight to solo at that level, but the rest of it I was able to clear without much problem

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just look at the blues, defias armor, cruel barb, and cape of the brotherhood. rogue all the way, and one lousy spirit chest for casters. might as well skip him.

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Just killed him ( lvl 22 rogue ) with a couple guys , and he dropped only the cape >< , I didnt get it either xD

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as of 3/16/07 he has a rare mob dragon around his picture...odd.

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I recommend that everybody focuses on Van Cleef and the warrior ( who has to be over 22 ) just has to fear them ...... or the priest ... :P just till u manage to kill him and loot his head

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this guy is really anyoying he has not dropped the cape of the brotherhood once he's dropped 2 cruel barbs 2 defias armor and loads of other stuff if anyone is one the defias brotherhood realm plz can u high levels take me thru i been 15 times im (Sadin) Alliance

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First off, there's a lot of bad tactics here. The second pair of guards is summoned when Van Cleef is low on health, not based on time or anything else.

Van Cleef has two stealthed guards, and you should use crowd-control if you have it-- on VC. One guard should then be your first target. The tank should hold aggro on both guards and also Van Cleef when he breaks CC. *Make sure you kill both guards before anyone besides the tank hits VC.* (This shouldn't be a foreign concept; it's by far the easiest way to kill Smite, too.)

After Cleef gets hurt enough to spawn the second pair of guards, have the tank pick those up and then everyone else keep beating down VC. Finally kill the last two guards.

Tip for twinks: even with a level 45 escort, my shaman 19 was getting quite a lot of xp per full clear, almost half a level unrested. I ran out of xp and want to stay in the 19th level WSG, so I didn't get the Defias chest. For an alliance rogue, druid or shaman I'd suggest getting the quest reward chest as a safety net-- you can always get a weapon from the auction house plus there's a great staff drop from Greenskin, and the Cruel Barb from VC. I give this advice in hindsight as I have a Staff of Westfall with Fiery Weapon and then Greenskin's staff dropped my next run. :(

Edited, Jan 28th 2007 12:13pm by pickanameffs

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I'd definately say to do his encounter with 5 ppl its like 24+. At this level no one should die in the encounter unless the strategy is flawed.

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hes 21 elite, btw, and the cape dropped... every1 said they'd need it (we all had died cuz only a 18 tank, 34 rgoue, and me, 21 lock) and i needed first, other 2 passed... boy, they pissed at me for nothing!

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We were so close to clearing this last night...

20 NE Priest
20 Gnome Mage
20 Hume Warrior

This is our Trio for these classes, myself (mage wife (priest) and brother (warrior) cleared everything upto VC without any deaths. We were headseted the whole way which made things 10x easier than in pick-up-groups. Plus the Holy Trinity (MH, MT, DD) helped balance out roles.

We got upto VC fairly easy, just keep the pulls to a minimum of 4-5 non-elites or 2-3 elites and your fine. Clear all areas around bosses so it's a focused fight, and things should stay smooth... at least they did for us. One time we got ambushed by patroles from the rear just as we pulled 2 elites from the front, which made it a 5-on-3 battle, but we got a few good moves in to over come it with no deaths (1st aid and alchemy potions helped).

We had a strat going for multi MOB boss fights... I'd pull an Add and sheep them next to me, clearing the area for AoE moves by the Warrior and myself. We then focused on the other Add(s) to clear them from the Boss while he pummeled the Warrior. Then killed the Boss while I kept the single Add sheeped. Thru Headsets... it worked just fine and very effective I might say.

Mr. Edwin VanCleef: This was a wipe I'll take the blame for. I wanted to use the same strat we used upto him, (pull sheep, kill, kill, un-sheep kill). But things got a little to hairy after the pull. I told my Bro (war) to wait with any AoE moves till I had one guy next to me, but to start on one of the Rouges and VC. Well... I Fireblasted, Frostbolted & even Fireballed one of the Rouged when I finaly realized it was the one he was geared on and thus; the reason I couldn't pull him away until he was allready at 1/2 health ><. Then made the choice to kill him insted of sheep his HPs back... which also made the same case for the other Rouge that was getting AoE'd by the Warrior, and now attacked because I got one of them away. So I couldn't sheep till well past the 1st two Rouges, which ate all the Priests mana for heals... including on me, because I took out 50% of a Lv20 elites HPs solo.

...we killed VanCleef and 2 of his Rouges before we wiped... didn't get a chance to loot VC either... soooo close ><

We could have done it if; we all geared on VC the full time... then sheep/nova the adds & kite while the priests potions/spirit worked. Killing the adds first is just leaving Mr. Eddy open to do too much damage, and eat alot of mana.

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I ask you, how does a 21 get full madcap, that's just crazy. I say he's a GM in disguise.

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i was doing this as lv 34 druid (i didnt do the defias quests before so i need his head) together with a few lv 20s and a lv 22 mage.mage frostnovaed adds and i mostly soloed vc....then the adds broke free and killed those pore bastards and eventualy me:( and HE DIDNT EVEN DROP THE HEAD WTF? :'(

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if you havent noticed, edwin is wearing the 'Stormshroud' armor set

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Ran the dungeon many times... 60 friend and another friend helped me... I got the Cape of the Brotherhood and Blackened Difias Armor 3 times. Had to vendor the armor though and I plan to use the cape at 20.

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You need 5 people lvl 20+ to do it in 1 swoop without everyone dying. You need at least 1 healer, 1-2 tanks (may include Hunters here), 1 Rogue, and 1 Caster type. I've done it 3 times now at different levels and it's not really possible at 18. It may say he's lvl 22, but he's an "elite" 22, which means he may fight as strong as a 24 or 25. He is also a boss, giving him extra strength, resistances, hp, etc.

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Mages can definately solo this at lvl 40 (maybe lower but i only tryed at 40). Van Cleef is your main challenge here. Firstly go to far side of boat you shud be able see one of the blackguards SHEEP him once VC comes out clear his adds be4 fighting him .. our AoE is really usefull here. Once all adds our down start pwning him

Minage 48, Hellscream

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Omg,,, Ive gone to The deadmines like... 20 times with my hunter mage and 2 rogues
first my rogue got corsairs overshirt
then cape of the brotherhood,
then i went with my hunter.... cruel barb dropped... the 1 drop i wanted for my rogue
then i went with my other rogue..... guess what dropped corsairs overshirt
went with my mage... got cape of the brother hood NOT the one drop that i have gotten each time..
Cmon ppl WTF is up with this,,,
im on the dath remar realm and would love a run thru of dm.... atm i just wanna kick van cleefs ass
my chars that im mostly on are Lemmestabya, Gonnagetyøu and shathre,
please help me

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Soloed with a lvl 35 fury speced gnome warrior, although I might not a have been able to do it without my compact harvest reaper keeping VanCleef busy for a little while while killed off a couple of the rogues.

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Just soloed thw hoel instance, but either way, he isn't hard at all. I didn't sheep, frost nova or anything. I would say he is very very easy, and I just pounded him, ignoreing the rouges. The second set pop at half health.

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haha thats a lot of notes...

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just focus all ur attacks on vancleef and dont worry about his adds, after you kill him simply jump on the cannon to the left of the ramp as you come up...it glitchs the adds and sends them back to their spawns, after they go back jump down and loot vancleef =]

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what lvl are the minoins around him. i heard there the hardes part

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Like TenebraeWolf says, this boss is really easy. I alone take him down (lvl41). Farming on lvl40 makes you earn around 10g per run. Depends if your auctions sell for that price tough. ;)

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Ok.

I soloed him at 40 on my warrior. Weapon: Mograines Might. Weapon Buff: +5 wep dmg

I recommend Battle Stance. Charge in, get in a few hits, and use Intimidating Shout. This gets rid of the concern of the 2 Blackguards. Once they're gone, he goes down really easy. When the Blackguards come back and the other 2 spawn, dont worry. Bring down VC then kill the Blackguards.

Personally...he's a really easy boss, a lot easier, in my opinion, then Rhank'Zor.

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I went there yesterday night alone and just stealthed through the place, killed some mobs of my choice and Edwin himself. Got the armor, but wanted the sword. Soon i'll go again, maybe i'll get the sword this time.

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I LOVE KILLING HIM WITH MY 54 HUNTER I HAVE A FRIEND THAT WILL TAKE MY ALTS THROUGH AND HE'LL MAKE HIM ATTACK HIM, THEN HE'LL DANCE WHILE WE JUST KEEP HITING HIM ITS FUNNY!

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any1 know what class he is? warrior or rogue?

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ran 11 times yesterday, corsair 5, staff 3, cruel barb 3, etc., no armor! 11 times! thats all i need for the set too. its like it knows, ooooo.

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I'd definately say to do his encounter with 5 ppl its like 24+. At this level no one should die in the encounter unless the strategy is flawed.

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Just solod him with lvl39 rogue.
Died at Smite, heh. Two times.

Money earned: 60s (boss loots, except Smite)
Money spent on repairs: 16s
Time spent: 30-40min

Not worth it seems.

p/s The tricks is to nuke him before the rogues around him outdamage you. But i had prepartion, so i had 30 seconds extra, so i just nuked him, looted and vanished. Was still very tricky.

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Re-cap:

Went back as Lv22s and cleared everything without a single death. Same group, same style except we went at VC a little different.

Warrior kited VC a little farther than last time to get him to the fighting spot. while the Warrior ran to his ground I sheeped one rouge, this took one away and kept him from AoE abilities. We then pummled VC as hard as possible & took him down in no time. The three rouges + the sheeped rouge were then routine kills. The same as any group of 3 elites we took on our way to VC.

We now have a Warrior that can dual wield the Cruel Barbs ;)

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i ran this place alot and i awlways got the cloth shirt
but i finally got the whole defiace set

in my 3rd bag
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1302388

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmU2klgIvVE

lol pwnt with a lvl 10 rogue twinked in dodge gear.

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There is a sherif named "Marshal Nathan Van Cleef" in movie "Shanghai Noon". Just wondering if it has anything to do with this ^^

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Done his quest WAY too many times now, helping people out...

He has 2 rogues with him when he comes at you. At a certain damage threshold, he spawns 2 more, it's not on a timer or random. Best way to take him is to have the tank do enough damage so aggro is guaranteed... no more than 5-6 hits. Then everyone focus on the rogues. When they drop, everyone focus on VanCleef. When the other 2 rogues spawn, it's really group dependant... I've been in groups that finished him off first, and in ones that went after the second set of rogues. Both ways worked out.

He's a pretty easy battle, as long as everyone has a good plan and is well-prepared.

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I have no trouble with this boss even with groups that aren't all 20+. As usual, tank should tank the boss, while everyone else focuses on the rogues. Its actually best if a Mage is handy for sheeping, aside from that, its pie.

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So, I'm trying to equip my level 19 rogue to dominate WSG. I have a friend (level 55 warlock) who can help me grind through the instance to get VC. If he doesn't drop the Cruel Barb, can we wait there for him to spawn again, or do we have to tear through the whole instance all over again?

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best way ive seen is all focus on vancleef and just keep running around away from rogues trying to keep 1 on each party member except none on the healer, wen edwin dies...

run to the safe point on the wheel., wen the rogues go back up the top they disapear and dont come back again...

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I find it funny that if stormwind really wanted to, they could send 1 guard to deadmines+stockades and kill everyone. So whats with the whole "ZOMG we're gonna get killed by the defias" stuff?

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man once i get WoW im gonna get to lv 10 with a rogue, come here with a lv 62 paladin and get all the defias stuff then i will get to lv 20 and look tight

Edwin VanCleef <Defias Kingpin>

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